I was not really aware of that. I suppose my JAWS might have encountered many stars many times and I just assumed that there were only three stars. I am not sure I see a big advantage in knowing that there are more than three stars in most cases though. In an earlier post I said, specifically in reference to the Stream, that I think it reads all the stars but that it does not slow down, so you might have to keep count yourself. After having found out that JAWS only reads three of them, though, I am not sure. I would question if it makes a difference though. The point is to provide navigation points in a Daisy book. If one is reading continuously and expecting the stars to mean blank space -- and that indicates a division -- then if a chapter ends without a chapter number or any other indication that a chapter has ended and a new one is starting then there is a division and I don't think the blind reader is deprived of any information that the sighted reader is not deprived of. While navigating a Daisy book, though, and the navigation is done by skipping from bolded and enlarged stars to bolded and enlarged stars then the kind of division, a chapter, will be obvious. I am not suggesting that only three stars be used and be bolded and enlarged even if that should do just as well for most purposes. If the bolded and enlarged stars are kept at four then if it is really necessary to distinguish three from four stars that could be done because most devices, if not all devices, that read Daisy books can be made to move through words one character at a time. Nevertheless, even without my knowledge of my own screen reader to the point that I was unaware that it read only three stars when there were more than three of them together, your point is well made by the example of multiple stars being separated by spaces. My JAWS read the bunch of them. So whether I am correct that it doesn't make much difference how many stars are there or not, the simple solution is to make spaces between them. Then it won't matter if I am correct or not because it should be easy enough to distinguish three from four stars anyway. It might still be necessary to keep count if you really need to know, but at some point the volunteers have to relinquish their responsibility and turn it over to the readers.
On 4/9/2012 12:49 PM, Martha Rafter wrote:
Hi Folks, If you type either 3 or 4 (or more) stars right together, JAWSonly says 'star' 3 times. However, if you put spaces between the stars, JAWS pronounces all of them.Marty *** * * * **** * * * * -----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:26 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: No chapter headings I think it pronounces all the stars, but it doesn't slow down for them, so it would be up to you to count the stars as they pass rapidly and that might be a problem. On 4/9/2012 12:12 PM, Ixchel, Jackie wrote:Hi, I didn't think of that because it does only say three stars. Hmm, any one have any suggestions? Jackie On 4/9/12, Kim Loftis<kll2277@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi all,This solution certainly works well for us Braille readers. However, I'm wondering how one would distinguish if he / she were reading using a Victor Stream, Book Sense, or some other Daisy player? My experience has been that if **** was spoken by a TTS engine, say, if one read using the Stream, that only three of those *s would be spoken, no matter how many were actually in the written text. I could be wrong about this, and if I am, I hope someonewill please correct my error! *smile* s would also be applied. Just musing... Warmest, Kim : -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamie Yates, CPhT"<mirxtech@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:48 PMTo:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Judy s."<cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: No chapter headings"A thing of beauty is a joy forever; its loveliness increases; it will neverThanks Kim! So the solution should be four stars, bold, and 16 point font. Right? And we should add this to the volunteer manual or to the FAQ that Judy S is compiling? -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: The Sewing Circles of Herat by Christina LambSee everything I've read this year at: www.michiganrxtech.com/books.htmlTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.pass into nothingness." John Keats To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list ofavailable commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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