[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for other deranged perfectionists

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 23:39:13 -0400

I don't know about Evan, but the opticon would be useless for me and a lot of other blind people too. I tried one out in 1989 when I was in rehab and couldn't make out much at all with it. It was considered obsolete even then and I don't think they are being made anymore. It is something you have to learn and the learning is painstaking. To me all I could feel with it was an unpleasant vibration on my fingers. I understand that if you stick with it then eventually those vibrations will begin to feel like letters, but that it takes lots of practice. I think the advent of synthetic voices killed it. I suppose the rehab teachers were not even thinking about using it to proofread. At least back in 1989 the Internet did not exist and Bookshare was even further into the future.

___
Carl Sagan
“Every aspect of Nature reveals a deep mystery and touches our sense of wonder 
and awe. Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to 
nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will 
prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront 
the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the 
Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will 
penetrate its deepest mysteries.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos

On 6/4/2020 10:35 PM, Judy wrote:

Hi Evan,

You could print out pages and use the Opticon with them, couldn't you? My brother did that with my mom's Opticon, I think. But otherwise, it's an image pdf intended for sighted volunteers. I was addressing the part of Valerie's message that asked regarding other sighted volunteers. smile.

Judy

On June 4, 2020 9:05:52 PM CDT, Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    Hi Judy,
    I’m not sure that having an image pdf would do me any good. Unless
    I am mistaken, (and I’m sure someone here will tell me if I am), I
    would have to have that image OCRed before I can read it. I can do
    that, but it may well introduce errors of its own and may not tell
    me what I want to know.
    Evan
    *From:* Judy <mailto:cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2020 9:27 PM
    *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for other deranged
    perfectionists
    So this got sent without the text it was supposed to have, which was:

    Finding out there is an option that is free is always nice, isn't
    it? *grin*

    On June 4, 2020 8:24:41 PM CDT, Judy <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    wrote:

        *grin*

        Judy

        On June 4, 2020 8:16:44 PM CDT, Evan Reese
        <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

            Oh well, I didn’t know that.
            So I guess my advice to buy the book is kaput. <smile>
            Evan
            *From:* Judy <mailto:cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2020 9:01 PM
            *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for other
            deranged perfectionists
            Hi Valerie,

            Every wish list book scanned by staff has a pdf available
            from staff that contains a scanned image of every page.

            Send an email to volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, tell them you
            are proofreading a wish list book that you'd like to have
            the PDF for, and list the title and the author. They will
            send you a link that lets you view the PDF online, and
            that will let you download the PDF as well.

            Judy

            On June 4, 2020 7:46:44 PM CDT,
            dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

                In recent weeks I have picked up a couple of books off
                the wish list on checkout. One of them is a YA book
                set in Hawaii with a lot of dialect. I have put a ton
                of work into it already, realizing that the scanning
                had not only stripped most of the italics, but had
                inferred traditional words in place of dialect words.
                I guess my question is more often for sighted
                volunteers, but how often do people feel the need to
                have confirmation from the physical print in trying to
                achieve high accuracy? I'm debating about the
                necessity of paying $6.50 to have the Kindle copy
                available to continue making corrections. The first
                chapter was available as a peek and it made me realize
                how much was missing or improperly handled in the
                scan. Money is tight, and I hate to spend the money,
                but I've also already invested so much in getting this
                to where it is now that I almost feel compelled.

                Everyone's thoughts are greatly appreciated.

                Valerie

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