Well, to my mind, something is not obsolete if people are still using it.
I was fortunate to receive training at the blind school I went to.
I actually described a chart for a book I did for Bookshare using the Optacon
to read it. No synthetic voice is gonna do that.
Evan
From: Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 11:39 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for other deranged perfectionists
I don't know about Evan, but the opticon would be useless for me and a lot of
other blind people too. I tried one out in 1989 when I was in rehab and
couldn't make out much at all with it. It was considered obsolete even then and
I don't think they are being made anymore. It is something you have to learn
and the learning is painstaking. To me all I could feel with it was an
unpleasant vibration on my fingers. I understand that if you stick with it then
eventually those vibrations will begin to feel like letters, but that it takes
lots of practice. I think the advent of synthetic voices killed it. I suppose
the rehab teachers were not even thinking about using it to proofread. At least
back in 1989 the Internet did not exist and Bookshare was even further into the
future.
___
Carl Sagan
“Every aspect of Nature reveals a deep mystery and touches our sense of wonder
and awe. Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to
nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will
prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront
the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the
Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will
penetrate its deepest mysteries.”
― Carl Sagan, CosmosOn 6/4/2020 10:35 PM, Judy wrote:
Hi Evan,
You could print out pages and use the Opticon with them, couldn't you? My
brother did that with my mom's Opticon, I think. But otherwise, it's an image
pdf intended for sighted volunteers. I was addressing the part of Valerie's
message that asked regarding other sighted volunteers. smile.
Judy
On June 4, 2020 9:05:52 PM CDT, Evan Reese mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
wrote:
Hi Judy,
I’m not sure that having an image pdf would do me any good. Unless I am
mistaken, (and I’m sure someone here will tell me if I am), I would have to
have that image OCRed before I can read it. I can do that, but it may well
introduce errors of its own and may not tell me what I want to know.
Evan
From: Judy
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 9:27 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for other deranged perfectionists
So this got sent without the text it was supposed to have, which was:
Finding out there is an option that is free is always nice, isn't it? *grin*
On June 4, 2020 8:24:41 PM CDT, Judy mailto:cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
wrote:
*grin*
Judy
On June 4, 2020 8:16:44 PM CDT, Evan Reese mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
wrote:
Oh well, I didn’t know that.
So I guess my advice to buy the book is kaput. <smile>
Evan
From: Judy
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 9:01 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for other deranged perfectionists
Hi Valerie,
Every wish list book scanned by staff has a pdf available from staff
that contains a scanned image of every page.
Send an email to volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, tell them you are
proofreading a wish list book that you'd like to have the PDF for, and list the
title and the author. They will send you a link that lets you view the PDF
online, and that will let you download the PDF as well.
Judy
On June 4, 2020 7:46:44 PM CDT, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
In recent weeks I have picked up a couple of books off the wish list
on checkout. One of them is a YA book set in Hawaii with a lot of dialect. I
have put a ton of work into it already, realizing that the scanning had not
only stripped most of the italics, but had inferred traditional words in place
of dialect words. I guess my question is more often for sighted volunteers, but
how often do people feel the need to have confirmation from the physical print
in trying to achieve high accuracy? I'm debating about the necessity of paying
$6.50 to have the Kindle copy available to continue making corrections. The
first chapter was available as a peek and it made me realize how much was
missing or improperly handled in the scan. Money is tight, and I hate to spend
the money, but I've also already invested so much in getting this to where it
is now that I almost feel compelled.
Everyone's thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Valerie
