[bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes appearing as single quotes
- From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:59:46 -0500
Cindy,
No, the keyboard only has the one key which is sometimes used for one
character, and sometimes another, depending on which software you're running
when you press it.
Since you are validating in Word, you can probably turn off Smart Quotes
somewhere in the options to prevent Word from trying to decide which of the
other characters to use and substituting it for the generic single quote
which Pratik is referring to. That's only a guess, though, since you are
running Word on a Mac. Keep in mind that it could be called something else
in the options. Seems like it is in the 2003 version of Word that I'm
running. That's what Sarah called the option back when she explained which
to turn off for someone on the list, though.
HTH
Gerald
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes appearing as single quotes
Pratik,
I don't see on my keyboard anything to differentiate a
single quote from an apostrophe. I only see a mark
underneath the double quotation mark which I use for
both. Is there something else I shold be finding?
Cindy R
--- Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Braille formatting has no problem with properly
> converting single quote
> characters, so long as they are proper ASCII single
> quotes and not stand-in
> apostrophes. If apostrophes appear where single
> quotation symbols should
> be, then braille conversion will not be correct.
> You are absolutely right
> that a global replace presents incredible
> challenges. Automatic braille
> conversion isn't smart enough to take care of this
> kind of difficulty at
> this time.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:15 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes
> appearing as single quotes
>
> Scott,
>
> I hope you're wrong about how they come out in BRF
> format, because I've done at least 4 books that way
> that I can think of--no, five or six that I
> remember.
>
> Do you read in Braille? If so, download the most
> recent ones like that I validated, Blood Royal
> and/or
> Transit of Venus (Did you scan and submit that one?
> I
> can't remember) and see how they came out. If they
> don't read properly, then we need to know that, and
> also need to know from the officials what to do. A
> global change would make apostrophes also double
> quotes.
>
> Cindy R
>
>
>
> --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Cindy,
> >
> > Yep, English author. And published within the past
> > 15 years. I would have no
> > problem leaving things as they are, but I don't
> > believe it will come out
> > well in the Braille format. I'm hoping someone can
> > comment on this concern.
> >
> > I've converted what I've scanned into the rtf
> > format, and the quotes are
> > still appearing as single quotes or apostrophes.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:01 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes
> > appearing as single quotes
> >
> >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Is this a book written by an English as opposed
> to
> > an
> > > American author? The English do it that way.
> They
> > > also, I've seen in books I've validated, omit
> the
> > > period we put after titles like Mr., and put
> > > punctuation marks outside quotation marks
> instead
> > of
> > > inside, as we do. Some of that may depend on
> when
> > the
> > > book was published, but I'm not sure.
> > >
> > > To find out more about the differences, as well
> as
> > an
> > > interesting take on grammar and punctuation, I
> > > recommend Eats Shoots and Leaves, which is in
> the
> > > collection. It's an amusing book.
> > >
> > > Which reminds me, spelling differs, too, z being
> > used
> > > in words like amusing instead of s.
> > >
> > > When I validate a book like that, I don't change
> > > anything but I do put in the long synopsis that
> > the
> > > book used English rather than American spelling
> > and
> > > punctuation.
> > >
> > > Grandma Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello all,
> > >>
> > >> I'm using Openbook to scan a novel. Where
> dialog
> > >> appears in the book,
> > >> Openbook is identifying what should be double
> > quotes
> > >> at the beginning and
> > >> end of spoken passages as single quotes. I'm
> > >> concerned that all of these
> > >> single quotes will have to be converted to the
> > >> proper quotation marks. Am I
> > >> correct in this assumption, and if so, is there
> > an
> > >> easy way to do this? Or
> > >> another thought ... is there a scanning setting
> I
> > >> can adjust within Openbook
> > >> so the inaccurate marks will be seen properly?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Scott
> > >>
> > >>
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