[bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes appearing as single quotes
- From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:47:19 -0500
Scott,
Yes. The opening and closing single quotes are in the 140's or 8000's
depending on which code your screen reader decides to announce. JAWS
version 7 has been announcing the four digit number, and the version 5 I
used to run announced the 3 digit number.
HTH
Gerald
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Blanks
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:39 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes appearing as single quotes
Pratik, can I determine if these are proper single quotes by checking that
they are ascii character 39? Hope I'm phrasing that correctly.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:29 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes appearing as single quotes
> Hello,
>
> Braille formatting has no problem with properly converting single quote
> characters, so long as they are proper ASCII single quotes and not
> stand-in
> apostrophes. If apostrophes appear where single quotation symbols should
> be, then braille conversion will not be correct. You are absolutely right
> that a global replace presents incredible challenges. Automatic braille
> conversion isn't smart enough to take care of this kind of difficulty at
> this time.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:15 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes appearing as single quotes
>
> Scott,
>
> I hope you're wrong about how they come out in BRF
> format, because I've done at least 4 books that way
> that I can think of--no, five or six that I remember.
>
> Do you read in Braille? If so, download the most
> recent ones like that I validated, Blood Royal and/or
> Transit of Venus (Did you scan and submit that one? I
> can't remember) and see how they came out. If they
> don't read properly, then we need to know that, and
> also need to know from the officials what to do. A
> global change would make apostrophes also double
> quotes.
>
> Cindy R
>
>
>
> --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Cindy,
>>
>> Yep, English author. And published within the past
>> 15 years. I would have no
>> problem leaving things as they are, but I don't
>> believe it will come out
>> well in the Braille format. I'm hoping someone can
>> comment on this concern.
>>
>> I've converted what I've scanned into the rtf
>> format, and the quotes are
>> still appearing as single quotes or apostrophes.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:01 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double quotes
>> appearing as single quotes
>>
>>
>> > Scott,
>> >
>> > Is this a book written by an English as opposed to
>> an
>> > American author? The English do it that way. They
>> > also, I've seen in books I've validated, omit the
>> > period we put after titles like Mr., and put
>> > punctuation marks outside quotation marks instead
>> of
>> > inside, as we do. Some of that may depend on when
>> the
>> > book was published, but I'm not sure.
>> >
>> > To find out more about the differences, as well as
>> an
>> > interesting take on grammar and punctuation, I
>> > recommend Eats Shoots and Leaves, which is in the
>> > collection. It's an amusing book.
>> >
>> > Which reminds me, spelling differs, too, z being
>> used
>> > in words like amusing instead of s.
>> >
>> > When I validate a book like that, I don't change
>> > anything but I do put in the long synopsis that
>> the
>> > book used English rather than American spelling
>> and
>> > punctuation.
>> >
>> > Grandma Cindy
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello all,
>> >>
>> >> I'm using Openbook to scan a novel. Where dialog
>> >> appears in the book,
>> >> Openbook is identifying what should be double
>> quotes
>> >> at the beginning and
>> >> end of spoken passages as single quotes. I'm
>> >> concerned that all of these
>> >> single quotes will have to be converted to the
>> >> proper quotation marks. Am I
>> >> correct in this assumption, and if so, is there
>> an
>> >> easy way to do this? Or
>> >> another thought ... is there a scanning setting I
>> >> can adjust within Openbook
>> >> so the inaccurate marks will be seen properly?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Scott
>> >>
>> >>
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