Hello Everyone,
All in all user "snailwiki" has now again modified the text in a very balanced
and helpful way. Very good quality work I would say. The emerging power of the
constellation community :)
Monika
From: "Alison Fornes maitreya71@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]"
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Changing the description of our work on
Wikipedia.
It looks like the "Family Constellations" entry has been recently changed
as well. When I checked last (a week ago?), it was much more balanced and
positive. Now it is back to the "quantum quackery" language.
Ack.
There are numerous books, PhD dissertations and Knowing Field articles that
could be referenced. Feels like a big project - one that I would participate in
if there were a group of us who wanted to get involved.
If that's you, let me know.
It is the courageous heart that loves. It is the loving heart that heals.
alisonfornes.com
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Monika Dressler drmdressler@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I have spent some time with help to look into this Wikipedia issue. It appears
there is only one hard core hostile editor Pinkbeast and one sceptical editor
Alexbrn who insist on restoring the older version and refuse to consider any
reasonable request to re evaluate the text. It is not hard to restore the more
balanced version by 21:47, 14 January 2016 Roxy the dog
As a community we should be able to prevail over two editors in Wikipedia but
we will need to adhere to the Wikipedia rules. Also additional attempts to
communicate with those two hostile editors may eventually work?
1. generate a user name and password - very easy, but do not try to have two
accounts!2. login3. go to Family Constellation - View history 4. undo
Pinkbeast version5. or edit/save the more balanced version by 21:47, 14
January 2016 Roxy the dog
It is not a large establishment we are up against just two recalcitrant
voluntary editors. I have been banned by them because my son was helping me
through his account, a breach of Wikipedia rules.
Good luckMonika
From: "anngwyn@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]"
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Changing the description of our work on
Wikipedia.
Hello Everyone, No surprise, really... censorship by our controllers is on
the rise...perhaps you have noticed this elsewhere in your personal and
professional lives... Kind regards Anngwyn In a message dated 1/15/2016
6:01:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
writes:
Hello all, In the past few days the following message has gone up on the
Systemic Constellations website. If the individual who changed the Family
Constellations page has the time and energy to change this page with the same
information it would likely benefit the whole constellations community.
It is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern:
Seems to have minimal sources, reliable or not. Google searches give very few
results, and the term seems to be used by only a few extreme-fringe groups.
Sources for the article do not appear to be either reliable or notable.
If you can address this concern by improving, copyediting, sourcing, renaming
or merging the page, please edit this page and do so. You may remove this
message if you improve the article or otherwise object to deletion for any
reason. Although not required, you are encouraged to explain why you object to
the deletion, either in your edit summary or on the talk page. If this template
is removed, do not replace it. The article may be deleted if this message
remains in place for seven days, i.e., after 13:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC).
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider
improving the article so that it is acceptable according to the deletion
policy. Please consider notifying the author/project: {{subst:proposed
deletion notify|Systemic Constellations|concern=Seems to have minimal sources,
reliable or not. Google searches give very few results, and the term seems to
be used by only a few extreme-fringe groups. Sources for the article do not
appear to be either reliable or notable.}} ~~~~
Timestamp: 20160114130702 13:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Warm regards, Patricia Robertson
On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Elmar Dornberger elmar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just found this today on the net and thought this might be of interest so we
all understand Wikipedia better. At 15, Wikipedia Is Finally Finding Its Way to
the Truth Today, Wikipedia celebrates its 15th birthday. In Internet years,
that’s pretty old. But it’s only just reaching maturity. Read the full story
Yours, Elmar
On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Barbara Morgan theknowingfield@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No doubt someone with a personal investment in keeping the negative out there.
Must be either someone who has had a negative personal experience of the work
or is in some way in competition. Why else would they come back so quickly and
change it back? Interesting why this is happening now, in terms of field
phenomena. Why this negative field around the work at this moment in time?
Barbara
On 6 January 2016 at 18:06, jack blackwell travelerjbjb@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Interesting, it has now been changed back to the original negative
description again. Hmmm
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