Thank you Gary and all dear friends
Appreciate very much your sharings.
My beloved sister recently left her body.
A great loss for me for she is also my best friend.
As i be with this grief, am discovering that pain and pleasure belong
together...a package deal.
Not able to have one without the other...the paradox that you speak about
Gary.
Night/day
Life/death
Sun/Rain
love/hate
and on and on it goes.....this is LIFE
In this work, perhaps just perhaps it may invite us to drop all ideals or
ideas of how Life should be???!
Perhaps who knows...
So the mystery continues and i am being invited to partake in this creative
chaos!
Very humbly and helplessly be with the fate of each other lovingly and
gently.
Sorry, already i have used too many words!
Namaste
Anutosh
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:14 PM, gary stuart <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A very good thread Sheila, Stephan and All.....
It is a concern to take seriously or we may become too big in this work
and not remain as humble as we think we are. Also we have to do our own
work
as we too facilitators are a work in progress....One thing I feel it's
important is to allow the outcome to be whatever it shall be. In some
reality the family systems have worked perfectly as the client wouldn't be
there for "help" otherwise. Establishing that it is a good family system to
the client who feels it is not I feel is the primary job of the
facilitator,
not to convince them but allow the field to wake them up to the real
realities going on in the historical undercurrent of their lives.
In my life and facilitator training this is something I had to become
aware of. I felt I came from a terrible family and couldn't see it was the
suffering that was passed down on both sides of my family that actually was
a testament to LOVE. My personal insight is that "the deeper the pain the
deeper the love" who would go through this pain/torture otherwise. It is
the
baggage and paradox of life... which knows no bounds good or bad it moves
forward with reckless abandon through eternity. The key is to get the
client
to notice they are the same as everyone else and if they are lucky they can
change through embracing it As it Is.
All of this being said, I close each piece of work with a circle of reps
including the client all holding hands and bowing for the highest good of
ALL concerned living and dead... We leave it with them to do as THEY PLEASE
FOR THE Client and honor that they showed us as a group to help us learn
more about what humanity needs to heal. Then we break the circle turn our
backs to the center and release our hands and walk forward a few steps into
our own future with this knowledge and compassion FREE of what we just
experienced before we go on to the next Constellation... Honoring and
releasing each piece of work to clear the slate for the reps and field then
the WHOLE GROUP does it at the end of the workshop before they leave... I
find this works great, shows honor for each field of ancestors and clears
any judgments from the rep's and about the darkness that may show us. I
always do this work to enhance "unconditional love" which is what most seek
even though they are not aware that they have it all along, they, just as I
before my work couldn't see the forest for the trees.
We too are human and will get old, sick and die just as those who came
before....
Blessings of Health & Namaste GARY STUART LA, CA
Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx<Gary%40Chifield.com>
www.chifield.com
PS I'm a practitioner of the Bowen Technique from Australia (available
globally)and find it works wonders....www.nsthealth.com
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From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf Of sheila saunders
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:02 PM
To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<constellationtalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] Health Issues for Facilitators
Stephan,
I'm sorry to hear of your injury and pain and glad that you are on the
mend.
This topic is one that I have been interested in for the past several
years.
There are many examples of injury, illness and death within the community
of
constellation facilitators. Whether there is a higher percentage of these
issues within this group than within the general population, I don't know -
maybe the statiticians among us could help with that. What interests me is
this idea that certain rituals can change the course of these events in a
"positive" way, and perhaps the absence of such rituals can have a
"negative" effect, or allow "negative" energy to take hold some how
("positive" being what we think we want and "negative" being what we think
we don't want?). I wonder, how can we know this? It seems intuitively right
to believe that the work must be done with humility and respect - these are
types of "rituals", one could say. And yes, I believe humility and respect
have an impact. But can we avoid illness, injury and death with them? I've
certainly fallen ill at times, I've injured myself, and one day, sooner or
later, I'll die. Can rituals affect these events and their timelines? Bert
often talks about not interfering in someone's fate. How does that fit in
here?
Lots of food for thought and conversation here. I'm eager to follow this
thread and hear what others think, and I wish you a speedy recovery,
Stephan. (If I pray for you and you get better, did my prayer work??!?!?)
all the best, sheila
Family Constellation Workshops/Fletcher, NC ~ Aug 28/Sept. 11/Oct 23/Dec 11
~ $125/10am - 6pm
Sheila Saunders, RN, LMFT
www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787
828-273-5015
"When we have passed a certain age, the soul of the child we were and the
souls of the dead from whom we have sprung come to lavish on us their
riches
and their spells." -Marcel Proust (In Search of Lost Time)
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
From: coachuno@xxxxxxxxx <coachuno%40gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:37:28 -0500
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Health Issues for Facilitators
Dearest Colleagues and Friends,
I have recently been sidelined with what in the chiropractic world they
call
a subluxation of two vertebrae in my back. Never in my life have I
experienced such intense and prolonged pain. Fortunately, progress is being
made with the guidance of practitioners of several modalities and the pain
is considerably lessened. As illness or pain are always times for
reflection for me, I have been wondering if any of you have experienced
severe pain or a serious illness as a by product of the work. Here in Peru
recently there has been an "outbreak" of severe maladies either experienced
by the facilitator or by someone in their immediate family. This has had me
thinking about the fact that in our work we are exposed to much negative
energy and to some degree or another we are absorbing varying degrees of
it.
One of the healers I have been working with raised this issue with me and
it
of course had me reflect on it.
I would be interested in your thoughts as well as any practices that you
might have following your facilitations for "cleansing" yourselves.
Fondly,
Stephen
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