You are very welcome Oscar. I love it when I get out of my own way! That's when the magic happens.
Take care
LindaTrauma & Transgenerational Therapist andInner Work Business Mentor for Women
On 25 Mar 2018, at 5:25 pm, OSCAR WESTRA VAN HOLTHE oscar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:That helps! Fully agree. I’m sure there are many ways of processing and for
souls to come to fruition and/or be their essence, sometimes more,
sometimes less visible for the “naked eye” in the here and now. And you
also touch upon an important point, to let go of any wish to “make a
difference” or to see/know how it may worked out in someone’s life/lives.
Thanks for the encouraging words and sharing how it maybe none of our
business, that definitely relieves, appreciated! The trust in that there’s
a reason for them to be with me, it’s good to hold onto! Generally I keep
that, but noticed that with a few cases and reflecting about it I must have
“forgotten” about that essence of the work. Thanks for sharing your wisdom!
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 at 01:46, Linda Conyard linda.conyard@xxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Oscar,
>
> One thing that comes to my mind is that at a soul level these people get
> something. We may not see what that is. I believe that they wouldn't be in
> the room with you if it wasn't their soul's desire and also the systems
> desire to see something different. Even if they do nothing else with it
> this life time I believe something shifts or opens and it may not be
> visible to us as facilitators.And maybe that's not our business.
>
> I hope this is helpful.
>
> Linda
> Trauma & Transgenerational Therapist and
> Inner Work Business Mentor for Women
>
>
>
> On 25 Mar 2018, at 9:13 am, OSCAR WESTRA VAN HOLTHE
> oscar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <
> ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question. It feels somehow a bit vulnerable to share, but it is
> important to me, as I want the work to be inclusive for all...
>
> The issue:
> I've had three people (of the many I see) in the last year who did not get
> the concept of constellations while doing it at an event of mine.
>
> Initial thoughts:
> Some initial observations about the people who did not seem to grasp the
> intensity of the work that (almost) everyone experiences:
> (1) they did not feel the "role/place"-representation; they could not
> imagine someone else to represent their XYZ ["Stand-ins cannot possibly be
> my XYZ, right?"]
> (2) they were not able to look beyond the "here and now" and link their
> pasts with the image that unfolds ["I don't get why stand-in XYZ does old
> behavior, it's different now!"]
> (3) they were all not in touch with their body, rather living from their
> head or living out scripts from others or from society but in no way from
> their core selves and identity,
> (4) they seemed new to awareness practices like constellations, and
> perhaps even unwilling to let go of control and unable to "look at"
> themselves from a third perspective,
>
> (5) they seemed unknowingly living with re-traumatizing defense and
> survival mechanisms; caught in an eternal split, not knowing who they are
> and what they/others do..
>
>
> So what?
> So far I've found our constellations practice very connecting across many
> different kinds of people, yet, this seems to be "a thing" where I either
> get with my feet on the ground with regards to the limits of
> constellations, and need to accept it's not for all of us at just
> anytime...or...what? Anybody else had similar experiences so far?
>
> It seems to me an important topic as I so wish this work to be inclusive
> for everyone, and these very rare cases intrigue me...
>
> Thanks for sharing any insights / advice / opinions / similar experiences!
>
> Would love to hear from fellow colleagues.
>
> Love, peace, and happiness,
>
> Oscar
>
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