This explaination makes sense of that which can't be broken down into a
mathematical equation...yet
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From: constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 4:45:36 PM
To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [constellationtalk] Re: Pseudoscience
Absolutely brilliant, Dan. Thank you! Bravo!
:-Ali/son
On 30 Oct 2021, at 07:33, Dan Cohen <danboothcohen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Monika -
I have been responding to your critique of pseudoscience for 45 years. In
1975, I studied at Northwestern University with Dr. Betty Jo Teeter Dobbs, an
Isaac Newton scholar. She was only the second scholar to be given access to
Newton's secret alchemical papers, the first being the great Cambridge
economist John Maynard Keynes. Her course revealed that there two pillars of
modern science, one observational and the other metaphysical. The
metaphysical foundation is materialist and reductionist-empiricist. This
results in the belief that consciousness is nothing but a consequence of
complex arrangement of matter, i.e., brain activity. This belief is neither
proven, nor warranted.
What devolved into pseudoscience were the remnants of alchemy and women's
plant medicine. Having been persecuted, hung and burned for 4 centuries the
descendants of Europe's witch hunts - which slew upwards of 200,000
indigenous woman - struggle to maintain a coherent and sustainable
metaphysics based on the lost wisdom.
While many speculative methods flourish, an increasing number of open-minded
scientists are reaching empirically grounded conclusions that challenge the
mainstream majority view. They argue that we need a model of consciousness
that is nonreductive and recognizes that consciousness can have its own
direct access to reality through inner perception or radical introspection.
These offer valid access routes to deeper structures of reality.
In Constellations, we work with three phenomena which challenge scientism.
1. Representative perception
2. Systemic entanglement
3. Orders of Love
There are many Constellation trainers and facilitators who adhere to
acceptable scientific understanding without mystifying. Others, like me, are
channeling ancestors, receiving and transmitting non-local consciousness, and
taking support from plant, animal, earth, ocean and celestial resources. Our
metaphysics are admittingly at odds. I am convinced the evidence supports
mine and is vacant in regard to mainstream science.
I looked up Pseudoscience on Wikipedia, the authoritative custodians of the
academic/corporate worldview. Their list was made in the context of
"educating the public about questionable or potentially fraudulent or
dangerous claims and practices." In one way or another all the topics impinge
on scientific domains or practices. Here's a very small excerpt of what is
meant by pseudoscience.
* Astrology
* Feng Shui
* Acupuncture
* Alternative medicine
* Anthroposophy
* Applied kinesiology
* Aroma therapy
* Ayurveda
* Chiropractic
* Chronic Lyme disease
* Craniosacral therapy
* Energy medicine
* Energy therapy or healing
* Spiritual medicine or healing
* Functional medicine
* Homeopathy
* Osteopathy
* Traditional Chinese Medicine
* EMDR
* Hypnosis and hypnotherapy
I wonder why psychiatric medications for the treatment of chemical imbalances
in the brain did not make their list? Is it because of the wealth of
scientific evidence in favor of Zyprexa to treat depression? Or is the divide
between science and pseudoscience capricious and biased? I agree with you
there must be deeper and larger forces (not least financial) compelling
manufacturers and practitioners to propose unsupported explanations.
For 45 years, I have devoted myself as an activist and clinician by pursuing
ideas marginalized by culture, erased by history, and obscured by willful
ignorance. Maria Popova writes, It is "in the margins of life as commonly
conceived by our culture's inherited parameters of permission and
possibility, that I have worked out and continue working out who I am and who
I wish to be - a private inquiry irradiated by the ultimate question, the
great quickening of thought, feeling, and wonder that binds us all: What is
all this?"
Whatever our metaphysical quibble, Monika, I do not doubt you are pursuing
the same pathways to look inside and harmonize our inner and external worlds.
Warmly
Dan
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<constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of drmdressler
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Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 1:33 AM
To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [constellationtalk] Pseudoscience
Hello Dan and All,
First I would like to say that for some strange reason email replies at times
are truncated on this forum. Maybe freelist.org maybe yahoo, maybe gremlins,
maybe even me - I don't know.
In any case I would like to say Dan that I too re-read you comment and I
didn't see you saying anywhere that slavery was imposed by Christianity. This
is also relevant to your below comment as far as people do seem to have blind
spots and amazing misunderstandings. So by virtue of this forum my comments
were addressed at the many constellation facilitators who seem to have a
predilection to make very questionable assertions as to why constellation
works. Magical, dream like fantasy trips are absolutely part of the
Constellation / Psychodrama process and the healing journey. I am not
disputing that for a minute, on the contrary. But to mix all kinds of Multi
Dimensional, Quantum Genetic DNA pseudoscience into a rational argument
undermines acceptance and respect for the whole modality.
Now I had my two cents worth, and I do not expect any change. There must be
deeper and larger forces (not least financial) compelling practitioners to
propose unsupported explanations. My original invitation was to simply
explore this religious attraction to pseudoscience. I also feel Tania's
soothing words did have a stronger impact, without which people may not be
willing to look.
Monika
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From: constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<constellationtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Dan Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 2021 3:08 PM
To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [constellationtalk] Re: Pseudoscience
Dear Monika -
I have read the subsequent posts on this thread with interest. There seems to
be a lot of confusion in the exchanges which I ascribe to a lack of precision
in your original post. You do not specify how your two questions relate to
the subject matter of ConstellationTalk. Our guidelines state: "This is a
platform for engaging in collegial conversations about constellation practice
as was originally developed by Bert Hellinger and continues to be developed
by practitioners around the world." Without any reference to Constellations,
how do readers know Who you are speaking about?" Are these Constellation
facilitators, our clients, the general public or broad cultural collectives?
Dan
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