Hi Phil
Great, thanks a lot, also for your updating advice.
Since I updated Jaws from about 9.0 to 16.0 a year ago I think I'm out of luck
for having speech feedback with jaws 15. But somehow I'm just happy that there
is a simple and explainable reason for all this and my system isn't that
extraordinary or deranged as I thought. So I think I just wait and hope tim can
fix the speech issue for newer jaws versions.
All the best
Ben
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Auftrag von Phil Muir
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 21:29
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hey Ben. You are very welcome! Always happy to help out if I can :-) Sorry to
say that you won't get any spoken feedback from Surface Reader currently under
Jaws 16 as something has changed in Jaws 16 and Tim hasn't had time to debug
the issue yet. What you could do though is uninstall Jaws
16 then install Jaws 15 and 16 again. In other words, if you are running Jaws
15 or below then, you will get spoken feedback from Surface Reader.
Also, if you register Samplitude E.G. extend the trial for a month then you can
download a patch and patch it up to version 13.1.3.176 (DC2). Don't just
updated it though. Download the patch from the Magix download centre.
If you automatically update it then you will be running a later version of
Samplitude however, that patch has some issues where by some strange characters
are spoken in edit fields etc. BTW, Magix are aware of the issue and it's been
prioritised for a fix. Finally, running Samplitude Pro X2 suite here and I
must say hats off to Steve Spamer and Tim Burgess for the Jaws scripts and HSC
solution. It really is very stable. Just working out a few final issues
before these come out of beta then you can all use them.
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Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Phil,
Thanks for your message and your suptle hints what a proper user should do ...
I probably didn't restart my PC after installing the LoopBe30 Midi cables or
after installing surface reader. Now after I just did this I dare to say, that
it almost is working. The faders are moving when I create a new Project in
Samplitude. but I don't hear any speech when I press par example the buttons
for selecting or arming tracks on my mackie.
In the surface reader there is a voice menu where one can mute speech. but It's
not checked, so I should hear something, right?
Just for the record: I've got Jaws 16.0 on a Swiss German Windows 7
Professional 64-bit system. Samplitude is Pro X2 Suite 13.1.0.131 (DC2), Trial
version.
First I turn my pc on, then the mackie MCu Pro control surface, after this I
open the surface reader, ant last comes Samplitude.
Ben
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An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Some questions. Which version of Jaws are you running this with and which
version of Samplitude? When you start your computer, do you first open Surface
reader and make sure the surface is working ok?
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Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hi Chris
Thanks a lot, this was very helpful and should indeed be included in the manual
... However I think I have some problems caused by my Mackie unit or probably
Surface reader. Sometimes I'm getting the error message: Couldn't open Mackie
MCU Pro USB 3.1, which I think refers to the physical port. And when I start
Samplitude I'm getting a caught unhandled error exception message. I think I'll
write to Tim at raised bar, hopefully I can get it work like you.
And yes, I really was able to replace the BCF 2000 with Mackie MCU Pro in my
head, *grin*
Thanks again for your help and kind regards Ben
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Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 16:46
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hi Ben,
I use a free utility called LoopMIDI. The following instructions are for a
BCF2000, LoopMIDI, Surface Reader, and sonar. So, you may need to modify the
instructions slightly. Where it says BCF2000, think Mackie Control. (grin)
I got the following help from Rui Vilarinho <ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx> I think it
should be added to the Surface Reader documentation, as this whole virtual
ports thing seems to be a bit of a head-scratcher for us. It sure was for me!
I've edited it some for clarity, but feel free to change anything if you think
it would be easier for people to follow.
Using the BCF2000, Surface Reader, and your DAW:
You need three things installed and working.
First, grab a copy of LoopMIDI from
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
and install it. This is used to set up two virtual MIDI ports. As it says on
the page, the ports are only active as long as LoopMIDI is running - note that
closing its window minimizes it to the System Tray but it remains active. You
also have the option to have LoopMIDI run at Windows log on.
Second, you need to have the BCF2000 plugged in, turned on, and in Mackie
emulation mode.
Third, you need to have Surface reader installed. It's available from:
http://www.raisedbar.co.uk/surfacereader/surfacereader.htm
In the Setup tab of LoopMIDI, make sure you have two virtual ports listed.
Add them with the plus and minus buttons if necessary. LoopMIDI will probably
default to numbering these 0 and 1, but you can change their names to 1 and 2.
Name them anything you wish.
If you have already configured your DAW to work with the BCF2000, you need to
tell your DAW to use the virtual ports, not the physical ones on the BCF2000.
With 2 virtual MIDI ports defined in LoopMIDI, go to your DAW and disable the
BCF 2000 MIDI device input and output assignments. Instead, select your first
Virtual MIDI port as input and the second virtual MIDI port as output.
Configure Surface Reader with the following settings.
In Hardware Properties:
Set input to BCF2000 port 1.
Set output to your first virtual midi port.
In Display Properties:
Set Input to your second virtual midi port.
Set Output to BCF2000 port 1.
NOTE: The above assumes you are using the BCF2000's USB port for MIDI
communication, meaning both port numbers are the same. If, however, you are
using the MIDI in and out jacks on the BCF2000, you will have distinct names
for input and output.
At 09:26 AM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hi all
If someone out there has experience with the surface reader from raised
bar: I'm trying to set this up for my Mackie MCU Pro with Sonar and
Samplitude. I purchased the virtual Midi Cables LoopBe30.
But now I'm stuck. I'm not sure how these virtual cables must be
connected. The Help Tutorial in Surface Reader sadly doesn't give any
examples for LoopBe30.
So, if anyone got it working and is willing to give me some pointers
(probably off list) I'd be very grateful.
Kind regards
Ben