Hey Len. That's good to know!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Len Viljoen
Sent: 05 June 2016 18:05
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Running jaws home here and I can safely say you can go back as far as jaws
14. Don't know about further downgrades. I've successfully gone down to 14
recently for the surface reader reason.
Kind regards
Len viljoen
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: Sunday, 05 June 2016 6:59 PM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
You can if you are running Jaws Professional. However, if you are running
Jaws home then there are limitations with regard to how far back you can go
on a 64 bit OS.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 05 June 2016 16:38
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Ben, If you are authorized for Jaws 16, you can certainly run 15 or earlier
on the same system. I have 14 and 16 here.
Chris
At 04:16 PM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hi Phil...
Great, thanks a lot, also for your updating advice.
Since I updated Jaws from about 9.0 to 16.0 a year ago I think I'm out
of luck for having speech feedback with jaws 15. But somehow I'm just
happy that there is a simple and explainable reason for all this and my
system isn't that extraordinary or deranged as I thought. So I think I
just wait and hope tim can fix the speech issue for newer jaws
versions.
All the best
Ben
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Von: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 21:29
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hey Ben. You are very welcome! Always happy to help out if I can :-)
Sorry to say that you won't get any spoken feedback from Surface Reader
currently under Jaws 16 as something has changed in Jaws 16 and Tim
hasn't had time to debug the issue yet. What you could do though is
uninstall Jaws
16 then install Jaws 15 and 16 again. In other words, if you are
running Jaws 15 or below then, you will get spoken feedback from
Surface Reader.
Also, if you register Samplitude E.G. extend the trial for a month then
you can download a patch and patch it up to version 13.1.3.176 (DC2).
Don't just updated it though. Download the patch from the Magix
download centre.
If you automatically update it then you will be running a later version
of Samplitude however, that patch has some issues where by some strange
characters are spoken in edit fields etc. BTW, Magix are aware of the
issue and it's been prioritised for a fix. Finally, running Samplitude
Pro X2 suite here and I must say hats off to Steve Spamer and Tim
Burgess for the Jaws scripts and HSC solution. It really is very
stable. Just working out a few final issues before these come out of
beta then you can all use them.
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Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Phil,
Thanks for your message and your suptle hints what a proper user should
do
I probably didn't restart my PC after installing the LoopBe30 Midic
cables or after installing surface reader. Now after I just did this I
dare to say, that it almost is working. The faders are moving when I
create a new Project in Samplitude. but I don't hear any speech when I
press par example the buttons for selecting or arming tracks on my mackie.
In the surface reader there is a voice menu where one can mute speech.
but It's not checked, so I should hear something, right?
Just for the record: I've got Jaws 16.0 on a Swiss German Windows 7
Professional 64-bit system. Samplitude is Pro X2 Suite 13.1.0.131
(DC2), Trial version.
First I turn my pc on, then the mackie MCu Pro control surface, after
this I open the surface reader, ant last comes Samplitude.
Ben
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Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 19:11
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Some questions. Which version of Jaws are you running this with and
which version of Samplitude? When you start your computer, do you
first open Surface reader and make sure the surface is working ok?
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Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hi Chris
Thanks a lot, this was very helpful and should indeed be included in
the manual ... However I think I have some problems caused by my Mackie
unit or probably Surface reader. Sometimes I'm getting the error
message: Couldn't open Mackie MCU Pro USB 3.1, which I think refers to
the physical port. And when I start Samplitude I'm getting a caught
unhandled error exception message. I think I'll write to Tim at raised
bar, hopefully I can get it work like you.
And yes, I really was able to replace the BCF
2000 with Mackie MCU Pro in my head, *grin*
Thanks again for your help and kind regards Ben
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Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 16:46
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hi Ben,
I use a free utility called LoopMIDI. The following instructions are
for a BCF2000, LoopMIDI, Surface Reader, and sonar. So, you may need to
modify the instructions slightly. Where it says BCF2000, think Mackie
Control. (grin)
I got the following help from Rui Vilarinho <ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx> I
think it should be added to the Surface Reader documentation, as this
whole virtual ports thing seems to be a bit of a head-scratcher for us.
It sure was for me! I've edited it some for clarity, but feel free to
change anything if you think it would be easier for people to follow.
Using the BCF2000, Surface Reader, and your DAW:
You need three things installed and working.
First, grab a copy of LoopMIDI from
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
and install it. This is used to set up two virtual MIDI ports. As it
says on the page, the ports are only active as long as LoopMIDI is
running - note that closing its window minimizes it to the System Tray
but it remains active. You also have the option to have LoopMIDI run
at Windows log on.
Second, you need to have the BCF2000 plugged in, turned on, and in
Mackie emulation mode.
Third, you need to have Surface reader installed. It's available from:
http://www.raisedbar.co.uk/surfacereader/surfacereader.htm
In the Setup tab of LoopMIDI, make sure you have two virtual ports listed.
Add them with the plus and minus buttons if necessary. LoopMIDI will
probably default to numbering these 0 and 1, but you can change their
names to 1 and 2. Name them anything you wish.
If you have already configured your DAW to work with the BCF2000, you
need to tell your DAW to use the virtual ports, not the physical ones
on the BCF2000. With 2 virtual MIDI ports defined in LoopMIDI, go to
your DAW and disable the BCF
2000 MIDI device input and output assignments.
Instead, select your first Virtual MIDI port as input and the second
virtual MIDI port as output.
Configure Surface Reader with the following settings.
In Hardware Properties:
Set input to BCF2000 port 1.
Set output to your first virtual midi port.
In Display Properties:
Set Input to your second virtual midi port.
Set Output to BCF2000 port 1.
NOTE: The above assumes you are using the BCF2000's USB port for
MIDI communication, meaning both port numbers are the same. If,
however, you are using the MIDI in and out jacks on the BCF2000, you
will have distinct names for input and output.
At 09:26 AM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hi all
If someone out there has experience with the surface reader from
raised
bar: I'm trying to set this up for my Mackie MCU Pro with Sonar and
Samplitude. I purchased the virtual Midi Cables LoopBe30.
But now I'm stuck. I'm not sure how these virtual cables must be
connected. The Help Tutorial in Surface Reader sadly doesn't give any
examples for LoopBe30.
So, if anyone got it working and is willing to give me some pointers
(probably off list) I'd be very grateful.
Kind regards
Ben
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