You can if you are running Jaws Professional. However, if you are running
Jaws home then there are limitations with regard to how far back you can go
on a 64 bit OS.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 05 June 2016 16:38
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Ben, If you are authorized for Jaws 16, you can
certainly run 15 or earlier on the same system. I have 14 and 16 here.
Chris
At 04:16 PM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hi Phil...
Great, thanks a lot, also for your updating advice.
Since I updated Jaws from about 9.0 to 16.0 a
year ago I think I'm out of luck for having
speech feedback with jaws 15. But somehow I'm
just happy that there is a simple and
explainable reason for all this and my system
isn't that extraordinary or deranged as I
thought. So I think I just wait and hope tim can
fix the speech issue for newer jaws versions.
All the best
Ben
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Von: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Phil Muir
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 21:29
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hey Ben. You are very welcome! Always happy to
help out if I can :-) Sorry to say that you
won't get any spoken feedback from Surface
Reader currently under Jaws 16 as something has
changed in Jaws 16 and Tim hasn't had time to
debug the issue yet. What you could do though is uninstall Jaws
16 then install Jaws 15 and 16 again. In other
words, if you are running Jaws 15 or below then,
you will get spoken feedback from Surface Reader.
Also, if you register Samplitude E.G. extend the
trial for a month then you can download a patch
and patch it up to version 13.1.3.176
(DC2). Don't just updated it though. Download
the patch from the Magix download centre.
If you automatically update it then you will be
running a later version of Samplitude however,
that patch has some issues where by some strange
characters are spoken in edit fields etc. BTW,
Magix are aware of the issue and it's been
prioritised for a fix. Finally, running
Samplitude Pro X2 suite here and I must say hats
off to Steve Spamer and Tim Burgess for the Jaws
scripts and HSC solution. It really is very
stable. Just working out a few final issues
before these come out of beta then you can all use them.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 04 June 2016 20:09
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Phil,
Thanks for your message and your suptle hints what a proper user should do
I probably didn't restart my PC after installingc
the LoopBe30 Midi cables or after installing
surface reader. Now after I just did this I dare
to say, that it almost is working. The faders
are moving when I create a new Project in
Samplitude. but I don't hear any speech when I
press par example the buttons for selecting or arming tracks on my mackie.
In the surface reader there is a voice menu
where one can mute speech. but It's not checked,
so I should hear something, right?
Just for the record: I've got Jaws 16.0 on a
Swiss German Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
system. Samplitude is Pro X2 Suite 13.1.0.131 (DC2), Trial version.
First I turn my pc on, then the mackie MCu Pro
control surface, after this I open the surface
reader, ant last comes Samplitude.
Ben
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Phil Muir
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 19:11
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Some questions. Which version of Jaws are you
running this with and which version of
Samplitude? When you start your computer, do
you first open Surface reader and make sure the surface is working ok?
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 04 June 2016 18:06
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hi Chris
Thanks a lot, this was very helpful and should
indeed be included in the manual ... However I
think I have some problems caused by my Mackie
unit or probably Surface reader. Sometimes I'm
getting the error message: Couldn't open Mackie
MCU Pro USB 3.1, which I think refers to the
physical port. And when I start Samplitude I'm
getting a caught unhandled error exception
message. I think I'll write to Tim at raised
bar, hopefully I can get it work like you.
And yes, I really was able to replace the BCF
2000 with Mackie MCU Pro in my head, *grin*
Thanks again for your help and kind regards Ben
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Chris Smart
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 16:46
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader
Hi Ben,
I use a free utility called LoopMIDI. The
following instructions are for a BCF2000,
LoopMIDI, Surface Reader, and sonar. So, you may
need to modify the instructions slightly. Where
it says BCF2000, think Mackie Control. (grin)
I got the following help from Rui Vilarinho
<ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx> I think it should be added
to the Surface Reader documentation, as this
whole virtual ports thing seems to be a bit of a
head-scratcher for us. It sure was for me! I've
edited it some for clarity, but feel free to
change anything if you think it would be easier for people to follow.
Using the BCF2000, Surface Reader, and your DAW:
You need three things installed and working.
First, grab a copy of LoopMIDI from
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
and install it. This is used to set up two
virtual MIDI ports. As it says on the page, the
ports are only active as long as LoopMIDI is
running - note that closing its window minimizes
it to the System Tray but it remains
active. You also have the option to have LoopMIDI run at Windows log on.
Second, you need to have the BCF2000 plugged in,
turned on, and in Mackie emulation mode.
Third, you need to have Surface reader installed. It's available from:
http://www.raisedbar.co.uk/surfacereader/surfacereader.htm
In the Setup tab of LoopMIDI, make sure you have two virtual ports listed.
Add them with the plus and minus buttons if
necessary. LoopMIDI will probably default to
numbering these 0 and 1, but you can change
their names to 1 and 2. Name them anything you wish.
If you have already configured your DAW to work
with the BCF2000, you need to tell your DAW to
use the virtual ports, not the physical ones on
the BCF2000. With 2 virtual MIDI ports defined
in LoopMIDI, go to your DAW and disable the BCF
2000 MIDI device input and output assignments.
Instead, select your first Virtual MIDI port as
input and the second virtual MIDI port as output.
Configure Surface Reader with the following settings.
In Hardware Properties:
Set input to BCF2000 port 1.
Set output to your first virtual midi port.
In Display Properties:
Set Input to your second virtual midi port.
Set Output to BCF2000 port 1.
NOTE: The above assumes you are using the
BCF2000's USB port for MIDI communication,
meaning both port numbers are the same. If,
however, you are using the MIDI in and out
jacks on the BCF2000, you will have distinct names for input and output.
At 09:26 AM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hi all
If someone out there has experience with the surface reader from raised
bar: I'm trying to set this up for my Mackie MCU Pro with Sonar and
Samplitude. I purchased the virtual Midi Cables LoopBe30.
But now I'm stuck. I'm not sure how these virtual cables must be
connected. The Help Tutorial in Surface Reader sadly doesn't give any
examples for LoopBe30.
So, if anyone got it working and is willing to give me some pointers
(probably off list) I'd be very grateful.
Kind regards
Ben
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