[ddots-l] Re: Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar

  • From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:22:26 -0400

Yep. Running a Mac Pro here that multiboots. I'm way passed dual. *laugh* Right 
now, I have 4 OSes installed on the internal hard drives, plus another on an 
external drive that I use for maintenance tasks. It absolutely works. When you 
install Windows on drives with BootCamp, they automatically show up in the EFI 
boot manager. If you hold down the option key when the Mac starts up, you get a 
list of all of the installed OSes on all recognized drives, and you just pick 
one to boot it. On mine, I have two Windows 7 installs, one with my stable 
setup, and one where I experiment. Same thing with the mac: one stable install, 
and one experiments OS.

The Macs are expensive, but they use quality components, and work just fine as 
Windows machines, if you need them too. They use RealTec high def audio 
controllers (which have great support in Win 7), Nvidia graphics, , Intel for 
network, SATA, and most other system controllers, Texas Instruments Firewire, 
etc.

Your only catch if you want to run both Pro Tools and Sonar at the same time is 
to be sure that you have audio interfaces that work with both. Sonar supports 
lots of different audio interfaces, but Pro Tools is very picky. Some M-Audio 
interfaces work. Some interfaces from Lynx work. A very few of the new Mackie 
mixers with built-in audio work. And, of course, the pricy Avid interfaces 
work, but those don't work well with Sonar. So, you can do it, but you need to 
research your choices first.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mike C
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:47 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar

HI there brandin, personally I have a Mac systemw ith Sonar, and Caketalking, 
along with a motu, and v-studio 100 sound card, and all of my gear is working 
smoothly on the duel boot system.
I think who ever told you that it wouldn't work smoothly is giving you the 
wrong information.
The problem in which the duel system doesn't work properly if lets say you are 
running Desktop parellel, and or Fusion, then I wouldn't recommend this system 
is the drivers on some sound cards, and midi gear simply don't work smoothly.
However if you set up a duel boot, your booting streight in to windows your 
system works just like a Pc as all new Macs use the same Pc components.
Another thing to note is that if you are using Jaws and Caketalking on the 
Windows side of things on the Mac you will definatly need a full size desktop 
keyboard to operate properly.
Infact My mac running Windows works better then the Pc desktop that I have.
Finally when I installed Windows as a separate boot on my Mac and install all 
the drivers provided from the Mac Cd, my system worked like a charm.
 
Hope this helps.
 
P.S. pro tools answer in telling your teachers that they wouldn't make their 
effort to make their software accessible since Sonar is more accessible, is 
just a cop out from Avid's side.
I'm only hoping the the 508 code comes in to effect with the Avid Folks in the 
future.
From: Brandon Keith <mailto:brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:46 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar

I'm dealing with this problem atm... My schools recording studio is all Pro 
Tools based and my stuff is Sonar based. So what we have Hypothesized would be 
the best thing to do would be to have a fire-wire drive so we can transfer from 
1 computer to another. I was told that having the dule-boot-up system would not 
be the best thing because there was some problems with all the hardware and 
whatnot not working smoothly. But My teachers have been talking to the guys at 
Avid who are in charge of the accessibility on Pro Tools and they said there 
wouldn't ever be full accessibility for Pro Tools because for one it's not 
worth their time, and second they don't want to compete with Sonar which 
already is way more accessible than pro Tools could be in a long time.
So I'd advise getting your own custom built DAW with Sonar.
And BTW I think the person you are wanting to be would be a mixer... I believe 
mastering usually comes along with that, but here where I am you go to a group 
of people for recording, go to another person for mixing then for mastering, 
then you go to your producer if you have one and they say yes or no then 
depending on what other people you have on your production loop it gets 
printed. So the guys who add affects like that are usually the mixers.
Mastering is more of the details, after it gets mixed there is still like a 
vibe that needs to be gotten out of the sound and a feel that the music needs 
to send out and the mastering guy amplifies that.
But basically (I know here) you should know how to do everything at least a 
little... I'm more in the mixing, mastering and performing stuff, but I still 
do miking and engineering if I can... :P Hope this helps and sorry for my long 
sentences...
Brandon Keith
 
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From: Cameron <mailto:cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:15 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar


Hi.  So you could have a dual boot machine of course.  Sometimes you need to 
use another OS for some tasks, so, you'd have it there if required.

 

For example, you could have pro tools on the mac OS X side, and, sonar on the 
windows side.

 

Cameron.

 

 

 

 

 

From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of neville
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:12 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar

 

What would be the purpose for doing that?

 

 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar

 

Sonar is a Windows only product.  It is possible to run Windows on a Mac.   
that requires a separate Windows partition running under Bootcamp or VM Fusion. 
 Your Mac behaves as if it were a Windows PC when this partition is invoked.

Kevin

        -----Original Message-----
        From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chelsea Dye
        Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:00 PM
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ddots-l] Mac support for CakeTalking and Sonar

        Hi list,
        
        I'm considering getting a Mac, and was wondering what support is 
available for Dancing Dots products. Also, can Braille displays such as the one 
that is part of the Pac Mate work with Macs?
        
        Thanks,
        Chelsea

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