[ddots-l] Re: Motif info

  • From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:44:03 -0500

The training would be from me. I've spent as much time and effort on Motif 
accessibility and working directly with Yamaha for improvements as anyone. I 
know the Motif backwards and forwards, no matter if working on it directly or 
with a computer. I complete full sequences with editing, sampling, mixing, and 
simple mastering directly on the Motif, and I'm very blind.

More important than the info, though, I'm good at helping people to understand 
what I'm explaining. I don't teach from an outline. I teach a subject to you, 
customized to your style of learning, building on what you already know in 
related areas, and using analogies that help you conceptualize the new 
information through ways that you've already come to think about your existing 
gear and processes. I cover a lot of info quickly, and, because of how I 
present it, you'll actually retain it through understanding, rather than having 
just memorized steps that might not always work. It has been a pleasure to have 
trained many people on this list, both over the phone and in person. I hope 
that they all agree that their time spent with me has been incredibly 
productive, and has saved them many hours of frustration and experimentation 
when trying to understand sometimes cryptic manuals.

$95 per hour is the rate for remote training from Dancing Dots. Remote training 
from one of the screen reader companies can cost between $70 to $100 per hour, 
and there are hundreds of people in the world that can teach you how to use 
Window Eyes or Jaws. There is not another me to teach you the Motif. Given that 
fact, we should probably be asking for more money per hour, but we're trying to 
keep the training relatively affordable. Keep in mind that any cost like this 
must cover the interests of several people and agencies/government along the 
chain before the remains reach me, so I'm never in danger of even starting 
golden pedestals, much less extending them.

By the way, Dancing Dots does provide free tech support for making sure that 
purchases behave as expected. We also even provide a limited amount of free 
training when someone purchases a full system including a DAW. However, we have 
to charge for time that we spend with teaching someone one-on-one how to use 
software and equipment. If we didn't, then I'd be on the phone all day helping 
one person to learn CakeTalking or some other product from A to Z, and would 
have no time for other customers, or for actually working on new projects. This 
doesn't include when you call to ask a question. If someone calls with a 
question about how to accomplish a certain task or use a certain feature, I 
always try to give them an overview of what they need, and a pointer to 
information
that they can read on their own to learn the details. If the question is 
simple, I'll just help them on the spot. When they need help with a complex 
subject, though, then we need to make sure that the expense of dedicating me to 
their goal is covered.

Bryan


From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:19 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Motif info

Hi.  oh.  Okay.  That's different then...

The way you worded it before, you made it sound like you were going to pay 
ninety five bucks to be connected to some guy at a call center or something.

If you are getting one on one instruction from someone who's actually using the 
machine, and he can explain things from your perspective, then that is worth 
the money.

Good luck,

Cameron.





From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Greg Brayton
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:15 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Motif info

Oh no I don't feel this way at all, I believe very much in the fellow that's 
gonna hep me. It's just that he wants to seriously educate me, so I have to be 
prepared before I take the plung. I think he went and did all the leg work that 
I could possibly do with sighted help and everything and I honestly think it'll 
be woth the money when I do sit down with him, with my recording situation 
ready to go. This guy is blind too, so he will be coming at it from just where 
I need to be. My only problem is that his memory is much larger than mine, and 
he wants to bassically do an info dump lol, which I don't think I'm quite 
prepared to receive till I get the recorder going. I just wanted a little very 
basic instruction that says, Here Greg, when you turn on your machine, the 
first thing you to to record a song is, here's the very next thing you do after 
recording and saving the first track, and then here's what how you save it and 
call it back up.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cameron<mailto:cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:22 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Motif info

Hi.

Wow.  Ninety five dollars an hour?  Are they smoking crack?  Or, do they feel 
the need to add a few inches to their golden pedestal and require the funds to 
complete such a project...

Most dealers at least offer a limited amount of free or reasonably priced tech 
support to their customers, especially when you buy a product that costs over a 
couple grand...

Ninety five dollars an hour...  I'd like to see the qualifications of every 
single person on their tech support team.

Sorry to rant but I hate seeing peple getting taken advantage of.  Please write 
me off list with the name of the company so I can be sure not to give them any 
business.

Thanks,

Cameron.











From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Greg Brayton
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:39 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Motif info

Is anyone on the list currently subscribed to the motif access list. I'd like 
to subscribe to that. I'm looking also to have  a phone chat with anyone who 
could help me get started with sequencing. The folks who sold it to me need 95 
dollars per hour for tech support, and they reccomend that I record the 
session, which of course is the right idea. I'm gonna get set up soon to do 
that but in the mean time I was hoping to just talk a few basics with someone 
if someone might have the time.

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