Indeed and clarity is a good thing. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track I'm not an engineer type like you but I can make things clear occasionally. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:49 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Kevin. That's quite a neat way of explaining this. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:38 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Dave, No. An Equalizer, otherwise known as EQ, divides the audible frequency spectrum into smaller increments. Think of the tone controls on your stereo, except that you have many more of them and they can be individually set to cover various frequencies in various ways. I'm sure Phil will explain more and better. But this is a start. If you take a vocal track and try some of the EQ presets in the Sonitas EQ, try the phone one and you'll see what an EQ does really fast. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:35 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Phil, Thanks for the additional help. I've never used the track equalizer. Is that like a normalizer, across all tracks in the project? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 14:06 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Phil wrote: There isn't an equivalent. Phil replied: let me try to be a bit mor helpful. You could achieve good results in Sonar 7 by using the Track EQ and the Sonitus compressor in Sonar 7. Or perhaps alternatively, the V64. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:36 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Phil, What's the nearest equivalent to VX channel Strips, in terms of simplicity and access, in Sonar Producer 7? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:26 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track It's in Sonar 8.5. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:44 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Bryan, Not sure I've ever seen the VX Strips plug-in. Is it Sonotus? I have Sonar Producer V 7. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:32 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Good suggestion, except he should be using the VX channel strip, not the multiband compressor. The multiband compressor is a great tool, but it has way too many settings for someone that doesn't know what they're doing to affectively use it. Most of the time, also, it is overkill to use it on anything except imported stems, sub-mixes, and the master bus. The VX already has a mountain of presets for all sorts of vocal styles. Plus, the other things it does (like de-essing and EQ), will probably help his vocal sound better, also. If you have no idea how to mix good vocals from scratch, the VX is the tool that you should use to automatically get as far along as possible. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:53 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Kevin, I agree that the compressor is likely going to help you the most. Just apply the Sonotus multiband compressor to the output bus. Select from the various presets and listen until you find one you like. I suggest setting a loop that contains both a soft and loud passage, and keep repeating it while you change the presets. Dave t----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Gibbs <mailto:kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 16:47 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track I don't know how to automate it. I thought I had some automation that I could remove. but I can't find any in the event list. There's no way I can find the exact place where the voice volume decreases and create the kind of automation event that would directly compensate for that. I tried Normalizing without luck. Wouldn't know how to use a compressor for this. Advice? Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X! Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:43 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Automation or compression? D!J!X! ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:09 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track You don't understand. The volume is not consistent through the track. I have different volume levels through the track and I need the volume of this vocal to stay the same. Moving the gain is not the way to go. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of neville Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:52 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Use the gain feature in sonar I use it all the time and its very useful. May the peace of God which passes all understanding gard your heart and mind in Christ Jesus. God bless you! Website http://www.nevillepeter.com email neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx phone 407-222-4488 ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:17 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Need to fix volume changes in vocal track Guys, I have a comp vocal track that I made from two other tracks. I did it by choosing one track and moving the slices I needed from the other to that track. Then I bounced the finished track to a new track. I notice that there are some volume irregularities where the volume pulls back. I don't see any automation that I can strip out. I tried normalizing the comp track and didn't notice any change. What can I do in Sonar, I don't own Sound Forge, to make the volume of this track uniform throughout? 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