Hi Steve, When performing, I count entirely on a tactile sense of the instrument; yes, aural feedback is often present in terms of knowing that I am playing what I think I am playing, but when there is too much going on sonically, or monitors aren't positioned well etc, the tacticle relationship is what I go on, as well as trusting that if I take care of playing the right notes at the right times, things will come out ok in the mix. - hope this helps, Bill _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:52 AM To: ddtots Subject: [ddots-l] Ot loud stage Hi all, At the end of last night Show, I was asked to join the band (who was topping the bill) The house mix was controlled by a sound engineer, however, the Band's stage mix was simply their independent Guitar and bass amp levels. My two questions are, 1: has anyone else been on a loud stage environment where it sounds like the keyboard is in a different key to the other instruments until the levels drop during the music, at that point you then hear the key for what it is? 2: When the stage level is so loud you can't hear the keyboards, is there any technique that totally visually impaired musicians use to A: know your hitting the right notes and B: keep metronomic? I struggled last night with these particular issues, I always have a slight Doppler effect when music is loud, I especially don't always hear the bass notes as clear defined pitcht notes. Steve W __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6084 (20110430) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com