[ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage

  • From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:22:12 +0100

Hi Tim,

I'd not heard of this psycho-acoustic effect before. 
I've always had problems with hearing the correct pitch when music is loud. 
When music is loud If I turn my head the sound changes pitch slightly. I've 
been aware of this for quite a while now, 
a while back, I did a kind of ear test using headphones in my little studio.
I set up a dry synth sound something like the sound you'd hear if having your 
ears tested, I was surprised to find that my left ear was perceiving the pitch 
to be close to a quarter of a semi-tone flatter than my right ear.

The Ear plugs are being sorted as soon as possible.
I need to stop being such a fool and take more care.

Thanks again Tim,
Steve W
---- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Burgess 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:46 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage


  Steve,

   

  There's a well documented psycho-acoustic effect where your perception of 
pitch is altered by volume.  This is the reason that a lot of perfectly decent 
studio singers appear to be singing flat when they're on stage.  The only 
solutions are to either get everybody to turn down, or reduce the volume you're 
experiencing by wearning plugs, etc..  Volume at te level required to cause 
this issue is definitely harmful to your hearing over a relatively short 
period, so you need to take this issue seriously.  

   

  Best wishes.

   

  Tim Burgess

  Raised Bar Ltd

  Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

   

  Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at

   

  http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm


   

   

  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
  Sent: 01 May 2011 11:52
  To: ddtots
  Subject: [ddots-l] Ot loud stage

   

  Hi all,

   

  At the end of last night Show, I was asked to join the band (who was topping 
the bill) The house mix was controlled by a sound engineer, however, the Band's 
stage mix was simply their independent Guitar and bass amp levels.

   

  My two questions are,

  1: has anyone else been on a loud stage environment where it sounds like the 
keyboard is in a different key to the other instruments until the levels drop 
during the music, at that point you then hear the key for what it is?

   

  2: When the stage level is so loud you can't hear the keyboards, is there any 
technique that totally visually impaired musicians use to A: know your hitting 
the right notes and B: keep metronomic?

   

  I struggled last night with these particular issues, I always have a slight 
Doppler effect when music is loud, I especially don't always hear the bass 
notes as clear defined pitcht notes.

   

  Steve W

   



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