The only answer to this problem I can think of, is discreet "in-ear" monitors, & even then, if, for instance the guitar is stupidly loud, forget it!!! l8r ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Kent To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage Hi: Wow! If t he stage volume is that loud that you can’t hear what you’re playing, it’s time to get off. That can’t be doing your ears any good. Believe me, I’ve done my share of loud playing but I never got into a situation like what you are describing. I’ve really stayed away from heavy metal rock anyway. We need our ears, and any hearing loss will be with you for the rest of your life, so be careful. Gord From: Steve Wicketts Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:51 AM To: ddtots Subject: [ddots-l] Ot loud stage Hi all, At the end of last night Show, I was asked to join the band (who was topping the bill) The house mix was controlled by a sound engineer, however, the Band's stage mix was simply their independent Guitar and bass amp levels. My two questions are, 1: has anyone else been on a loud stage environment where it sounds like the keyboard is in a different key to the other instruments until the levels drop during the music, at that point you then hear the key for what it is? 2: When the stage level is so loud you can't hear the keyboards, is there any technique that totally visually impaired musicians use to A: know your hitting the right notes and B: keep metronomic? I struggled last night with these particular issues, I always have a slight Doppler effect when music is loud, I especially don't always hear the bass notes as clear defined pitcht notes. Steve W __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6084 (20110430) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com