[ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage
- From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 21:23:51 +0100
Hi Robert,
I think your right about my left hearing pitch issue. I believe I was possibly
born with this slight problem.
It some how becomes more noticeable when the music is very loud.
I've decided that I'm fine performing live when using my own backing tracks.
I'm thinking of maybe using in-ear monitoring panned far right as I believe it
to be my right ear that hears correct pitch.
It's an interesting learning curve.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Hall
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage
By all means get the earplugs Steve, but I don't believe that the sleight
difference in pitch perception was caused by over exposure to loud music. I
recently had a hearing exam with my Audiologist and got the same results for my
left ear. It appears that some of us are just wired that way for example:not
everyone has equal strength in their right and left arms and legs or perfectly
equal 20 20 vision in both eyes, but too close to be call anything less. Then
again there are some people known to possess Ambidexterity: equal abilities
with both arms an legs. Robert.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Wicketts
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage
Hi Tim,
I'd not heard of this psycho-acoustic effect before.
I've always had problems with hearing the correct pitch when music is loud.
When music is loud If I turn my head the sound changes pitch slightly. I've
been aware of this for quite a while now,
a while back, I did a kind of ear test using headphones in my little studio.
I set up a dry synth sound something like the sound you'd hear if having
your ears tested, I was surprised to find that my left ear was perceiving the
pitch to be close to a quarter of a semi-tone flatter than my right ear.
The Ear plugs are being sorted as soon as possible.
I need to stop being such a fool and take more care.
Thanks again Tim,
Steve W
---- Original Message -----
From: Tim Burgess
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Ot loud stage
Steve,
There's a well documented psycho-acoustic effect where your perception of
pitch is altered by volume. This is the reason that a lot of perfectly decent
studio singers appear to be singing flat when they're on stage. The only
solutions are to either get everybody to turn down, or reduce the volume you're
experiencing by wearning plugs, etc.. Volume at te level required to cause
this issue is definitely harmful to your hearing over a relatively short
period, so you need to take this issue seriously.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 01 May 2011 11:52
To: ddtots
Subject: [ddots-l] Ot loud stage
Hi all,
At the end of last night Show, I was asked to join the band (who was
topping the bill) The house mix was controlled by a sound engineer, however,
the Band's stage mix was simply their independent Guitar and bass amp levels.
My two questions are,
1: has anyone else been on a loud stage environment where it sounds like
the keyboard is in a different key to the other instruments until the levels
drop during the music, at that point you then hear the key for what it is?
2: When the stage level is so loud you can't hear the keyboards, is there
any technique that totally visually impaired musicians use to A: know your
hitting the right notes and B: keep metronomic?
I struggled last night with these particular issues, I always have a
slight Doppler effect when music is loud, I especially don't always hear the
bass notes as clear defined pitcht notes.
Steve W
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