[ddots-l] Re: putting together backing tracks

  • From: "Damon Fibraio" <dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:42:34 -0400

NO, I haven't considered that. How would it help me?

 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:28 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: putting together backing tracks

 

Have you considered Band in a Box? Sounds like exactly what you need. And
there are scripts to help with access.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Damon Fibraio <mailto:dfibraio@xxxxxxxxx>  

To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx 

Cc: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 18:21

Subject: [ddots-l] putting together backing tracks

 

OK, so I am sitting here contemplating this solo project thing. And I have
some general ideas, but would really like some help from those of you doing
this kind of thing.

 

My goal is to put together sets of music that I play along to. Either I play
the tracks from my newly acquired Zoom h4n or I use my laptop. Not sure
which yet. The tracks will be rock and roll based, generally from the 60s
through today, probably with a larger emphasis on 70s and 80s and some 90s
and some modern, although I won't rule out a beatles song or whatnot. My
weapons of choice for recording the tracks include sonar 8.5.3 lots of
effects, superior drummer as a plugin for drums, trilian for bass, my motif
xs7 run through a line6 pod x3 live or gear box for guitars, plus all my
ardware like the motif, pc3, ord rack 2x and soft synths like b4, pro53,
fm7, dimension pro, rapture and god knows what else I have here.

 

So, my problems are like this. IN putting together tracks, I am trying not
to go too far into overproduced land, so no doubling backing vocals, trying
not to overarrange things, basically making it drums, bass, one or two
guitars, and enough keyboard parts that can be officially pulled off live. I
don't want it to sound too canned, I want it to have a live feel to it. So,
there'd be no more than 2 harony parts in addition to what I sing. I plan on
going one step further with this live and actually doing guitar oriented
stuff using my roland ax1 shoulder controller for the guitar stuff, like say
I want to do Talk dirty to me by poison, I'd literally play it on a keytar
including the solos using a motif xs7 guitar patch going through my pod.

 

Now.

 

My biggest issue is finding the rght drum sound for superior drummer. I
don't know if I should make it sound like abig room or more tight. I have
always liked a big room drum sound. Plus, should I tailor the drum sound for
each song. Say I am going to do are you gonna go my way by lenny kravitz.
That's a different sound on the drum compared to 25 oor 6 2 4 by Chicago,
which is different than cult of personality by living color, which is
different to some beatles track. So, should I get one template drum sound or
tailor them to each song? I am worried about it sounding too much like
karaoke and want it to sound like it would if there were musicians behind
me. So, what's the best way to go about making this sound that way?

 

Also, what kind of PA requirements would I need for something like this? I
currently only use one Mackie srm monitor. I wonder if that would be enough?
It's got a 12 inch woofer and a horn tweeter. Put it on astand, maybe it'd
be good, but it wouldn't be stereo. I know that doesn't matter, I am not
going to pan my tracks left and right. But should I try something else

 

Also, effects? Record vocals dry or not?

 

Lastly, am I barking up the wrong tree with this kind of material? I don't
really want to do atypical set of Billy Joel and Elton john and all light
stuff. I want to do some of that, but I also want to rock out a bit and do
things most people would never expect a keyboard player to do. I just want
it to be believeable and not sound like karaoke. So, any suggestions and I'd
love you forevfer.

 

If I think of other questions, I'll throw them in, but 6this is probably too
much as it is.

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Damon Fibraio

personal site: http://www.keyboardguy.com

band site: Days Before Tomorrow http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com

Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio

 

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