[ddots-l] Re: rant, I won't play that! wasRe: New Track uploaded - On Broadway
- From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:17:48 +0100
Steve makes an interesting point here. Although it's possible for anyone to
record anything, there's still an art to being a good engineer. Producing
and arranging are very different animals indeed. Being someone who tries
to do both, I can tell you that I think very differently when working on the
sound for a project, E.G. sorting out EQ, Compression, panning mixing etc.
as aposed to looking at the best vocal arrangement for a song.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 19 July 2010 11:58
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: rant, I won't play that! wasRe: New Track uploaded -
On Broadway
Hi Gord,
I personally believe the problem is, years ago we had Arrangers that did
there job beautifully and then it would be recorded and produced by other
people.
These days the producers think they know how to right, arrange and produce
the whole song.
Nat King Cole would have had a career lasting around 2 years if he'd been
starting out now.
Now Nat's a guy who never ever needed pitch correction, what a legend.
Steve W
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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:51 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: rant, I won't play that! wasRe: New Track uploaded -
On Broadway
> Hi:
> For a while, I did Biance's Single Ladies, probably one of the most
> mindless pieces of trash ever recorded. Folks would clamor for it
> every night and I got totally burned out on it within a month. I can
> play songs that I've been doing for over 25 years and still love doing
> them, but this new stuff has a very short shelf life with me. I
> decided that I would not do stuff like that any more. Enough people
> come to see me doing what I like doing, the classic R&B, standards,
> some country, seventies and eighties stuff, etc. Why should I
> prostitute myself doing this trash? And folks who ask for Biance or R
> Kelly don't tip anyway. I'd rather play a Sanatra song.
> Gord
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:46 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: New Track uploaded - On Broadway
>
>
>>I personally don't think digitally enhanced vocals are going to go
>>away that easily.
>>
>> Everyone thought Rap music would just come and go, there are Rap
>> Stars now who are bigger names than any of those guys from the 80's.
>> The reason Rap survives it the same reason that maybe digital
>> enhanced vocals will still be around in the future, that is, people
>> without good singing voices can still become pop stars. remember MC
Hammer?
>> The first time I heard "Can't touch this" I seriously thought it was
>> a radio DJ playing about with a backing track.
>> That record sold millions.
>> Whether the music is good or bad, there are a lot of people who
>> listen to shall we say unlikely artistes who find themselves being super
stars.
>> Well, I'm off now to listen to Lady Gaga...
>>
>> Steve W
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:00 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: New Track uploaded - On Broadway
>>
>>
>>>I reckon you're right there about it being the decades atypical pop
>>>identifier, but, it still, er, kinda, sux?
>>>
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>>> From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:23 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: New Track uploaded - On Broadway
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>>>
>>>> At 02:35 PM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>its just overdone pitch correction. Plugins like antaris (not sure
>>>>>if thats how you spel it) autotune are good for it. Personally, i
>>>>>think that idia has been done to death.
>>>>
>>>> Oh I agree it's been overdone! Just as we probably all recognize
>>>> pop from the 1980's by the gated reverb, electronic drums,
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