I have always found colaberating to be rewarding. I'm more of a finisher than a starter when it comes to song writing. If somebody hands me a set of lyrics, or a verse, I can go from there. I have rarely written something from start to finish. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Doctor cc To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: rekindling the passion for music composition Hello, You say you are 40 years old, well you might try finding some one you would like to work with who is younger than you. I am 74 and I enjoy learning how to produce this music the new way. When I started out we only had two tracks to work with so we had to do everything at one time. Just sit back for a week and you will be ready again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Leishman To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: rekindling the passion for music composition Interesting topic this. This is just my own personal thoughts on composing at the moment. I’m 40 years old and have been messing around with recording and production since I was 15. It isn’t always easy to motivate yourself to compose music especially up to a releasable standard. I used to joke with some of the bands I have worked with over the years about the “eye of the tiger”. When your young and just getting into music everything is new and magical and one is eager to learn the tricks of the trade. Like most things I guess once you know how the trick is done you need more and more novelty to get the creative juices going. I’ve found it harder to finish tracks as I have got older. Starting them is pretty easy though LOL. It’s like being a production junkie LOL. I have found that the best times I have had writing music have been working with another like minded person. I always had more fun, got more done and far quicker when I had a great working partner. This is despite all the changes with technology and the effort it takes to learn it before you can even get started on any tune. I sometimes wonder whether having a computer that can do just about anything these days in some ways isolates us music makers and discourages us from making the effort to work with other musicians. Even though I have a room full of old synths, drum machines, guitars etc, I have taken to just having my Novation remote 61 controller keyboard and a laptop in the conservatory and a guitar in the corner. O yes, and my rocking chair LOL, I just find having this simple setup works better for me these days for breaking the back of a new track. I won’t start playing with any retro stuff until I have gone through this process now. It keeps me on track if you pardon the pun!!! --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Steve Wicketts <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Steve Wicketts <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: rekindling the passion for music composition To: "ddtots" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, 11 July, 2010, 10:03 Hi Scott, Everyone has that wow factor when having their first synth or Work Station, the sounds sound amazing to you and you own it. In a few Weeks you know exactly where every single patch sound is located and which one's you love. Everything is quick and this links to being inspired. Using Sonar, is a much slower working environment, , we have issues with a lot of the great sounds not being accessible and there's a lot to learn, however, once you climb the learning mountain. The view is one of production levels that you never thought possible, understanding of making a tiny softsynth sound so big it blows your speakers off the wall. Having effects where you can tweak or even completely change the presets, Routing sound so you can isolate the whole Horn section with just one key stroke. I too felt disillusioned when first looking at Sonar, I'd spend a Week on a project and when comparing my Sonar project with the same Motif project the Motif would sound much richer and overall just better. It took awhile and loads of patients before the Motif was finally made to look like an old little mouse frightened in the corner of my studio. I don't believe your Passion has gone, it's just frustration throwing a blanket over it. If you'd like, I could sent you an MP3 of some music I did on the Motif and the revamped version on Sonar. Just let me know what style of music you like and I'll send examples in that style. It's music from other artiste that inspires me, for example, Prince's new album "2010" was released in Europe and the UK yesterday, after hearing this album, my inspiration has been set to mega boost. His best album in 20 years and I've got them all. Steve W ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Lawlor To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 3:47 AM Subject: [ddots-l] rekindling the passion for music composition Hello. I'm feeling lately that the passion and love for music composition that I used to have is fading. When I got my kurzweil pc3, and would play it, I didn't feel the same excitement and creative spark that I felt long ago when I had my first keyboard. I'm not sure if it's a case where maybe I've changed over all this time without an outlet for musical creativity because I've been without a board for so long but I'm wondering, for those of you who have been in music for a while, how do you ignite the passion if you feel it slipping away? Someone suggested to me that maybe I'm just ready to go in a new direction musically. Reworking old material is predictable and boring, even on a new board and as much as I'd like to get into ambient and space music, I find that when I try to write that sort of thing, I find myself wondering where to go with an idea, how long to stretch it out, etc. I enjoy the long-form characteristics of a lot of ambient music. Perhaps I'm getting in my own way as I've heard that some artists have that problem. If we get this new house that we're hoping to buy, I'll have a dedicated space for my pc and whatever keyboard I decide to buy and maybe that will help, having my own personal creative space. Right now, everything's in the study which is a common area for all of us. Thanks for letting me ramble out some thoughts and for giving me any ideas or feedback you might have regarding what I've written. 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