Well, I grew up in the 1970's and am a bit of a rebel. I like the dashes better than what BANA rule says we should do. Not sure how much I like that British rule. Interestingly enough, the Reader's Digest in Braille uses the double dash for bullets. Bob Hachey -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warren Figueiredo Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:33 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Bullets No, it won't be any different because I've encountered this too and I rarely use the standard template. How would Americans feel about adopting the 456, 256 bullet symbol the British recently adopted? It would give us a standard symbol. Warren -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dresser Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:50 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Bullets Warren, I guess there are some left-over vestiges of the '60s, although I'm not really against all rules (or even most rules). In this case, I just didn't like the symbol DBTW used when it translated bullets, but now I wonder if it would have behaved differently if I were using the BANA Text template. Thanks for including the rules. Steve On Tuesday 12/20/05 06:06 Warren Figueiredo wrote: >Steve said: I'd be interested to know what the official rule is, but >I'll bet I won't like it. > >Warren Figueiredo replies: Steve, I didn't know that you were so >refractory to rules. Did you grow up in the sixties? <grin> > >The British have adopted dots 456, 256 as their new bullet symbol. >(Should BANA adopt it, too?) > >Current BANA rules say the following: > > > From Print to Braille Formats (Rule 7 Columned Material, Listed Items, > Outlines, and Indexes; Section 2a(3) the following provisions are made: >(3) Bullets, hollow dots, check marks, and other signs printed before >each listed item solely for visual effect must be ignored in braille. >However, when only certain items in a list are specifically marked >using bullets, check marks, stars, or other print signs, follow the >directives given in Rule 3, Section 5. > >Rule 3 Braille Formats for Print Emphasis 5. Specially marked items in >columns and lists. Ignore bullets, check marks, diamonds, stars, and >other visual signs that are printed before each item in a column or a >list solely for visual effect. However, if only some items are shown >marked with these or similar signs, follow the directives given below. >NOTE: For reference marks and notes in columns and lists, see Rule 7, >Section 1g for columns, Rule 7, Section 2f for lists. > >When only one kind of print sign is shown with items in a column or >list, it must be represented by the symbol dots 26, 26. > >If two or more different signs are shown with items in a column or >list, they must be represented by the braille symbols provided in Rule >5, Section 2e which can be found at http://www.brl.org/formats/rule05.html > >How was that, Steve? >Warren * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *