[duxuser] Re: Bullets
- From: "Benham, Richard, , PFPA" <RBenham@xxxxxxxx>
- To: "'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:56:49 -0000
Hello. As I may have mentioned in a previous posting, if you use the cb
code prior to the bullet in dbtw 10:5, you would get 1-6 1-6. You would
then use the tx code after the bullet symbol to return to grade 2
Braille. However, your idea, Steve isn't a bad one either.
Richard Benham
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:21 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Bullets
Warren,
I'd like that much better than 1-6, 3-5, 3-5, which is what DBTW does
now. I'm a bit surprised that DBTW doesn't honor BANA rules here,
since it usually does. You realize, though, that adapting the
British symbol will probably cause a top-to-bottom revision of
everything, which will in turn cause more debate, which will ...
Steve
On Tuesday 12/20/05 15:33 Warren Figueiredo wrote:
>No, it won't be any different because I've encountered this too and I
rarely
>use the standard template.
>
>How would Americans feel about adopting the 456, 256 bullet symbol the
>British recently adopted? It would give us a standard symbol.
>
>Warren
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Steve Dresser
>Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:50 PM
>To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [duxuser] Re: Bullets
>
>Warren,
>
>I guess there are some left-over vestiges of the '60s, although I'm
>not really against all rules (or even most rules). In this case, I
>just didn't like the symbol DBTW used when it translated bullets, but
>now I wonder if it would have behaved differently if I were using the
>BANA Text template. Thanks for including the rules.
>
>Steve
>
>On Tuesday 12/20/05 06:06 Warren Figueiredo wrote:
> >Steve said: I'd be interested to know what the official rule is, but
> >I'll bet I won't like it.
> >
> >Warren Figueiredo replies: Steve, I didn't know that you were so
> >refractory to rules. Did you grow up in the sixties? <grin>
> >
> >The British have adopted dots 456, 256 as their new bullet symbol.
> >(Should BANA adopt it, too?)
> >
> >Current BANA rules say the following:
> >
> >
> > From Print to Braille Formats (Rule 7 Columned Material, Listed
> > Items, Outlines, and Indexes; Section 2a(3) the following provisions
are
>made:
> >(3) Bullets, hollow dots, check marks, and other signs printed
> >before each listed item solely for visual effect must be ignored in
> >braille. However, when only certain items in a list are specifically
> >marked using bullets, check marks, stars, or other print signs,
> >follow the directives given in Rule 3, Section 5.
> >
> >Rule 3 Braille Formats for Print Emphasis
> >5. Specially marked items in columns and lists. Ignore bullets,
> >check marks, diamonds, stars, and other visual signs that are
> >printed before each item in a column or a list solely for visual
> >effect. However, if only some items are shown marked with these or
> >similar signs, follow the directives given below. NOTE: For
> >reference marks and notes in columns and lists, see Rule 7, Section
> >1g for columns, Rule 7, Section 2f for lists.
> >
> >When only one kind of print sign is shown with items in a column or
> >list, it must be represented by the symbol dots 26, 26.
> >
> >If two or more different signs are shown with items in a column or
> >list, they must be represented by the braille symbols provided in
> >Rule 5, Section 2e which can be found at
>http://www.brl.org/formats/rule05.html
> >
> >How was that, Steve?
> >Warren
>
>
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