[duxuser] Re: Bullets

  • From: Steve Dresser <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:21:12 -0500

Warren,

I'd like that much better than 1-6, 3-5, 3-5, which is what DBTW does now. I'm a bit surprised that DBTW doesn't honor BANA rules here, since it usually does. You realize, though, that adapting the British symbol will probably cause a top-to-bottom revision of everything, which will in turn cause more debate, which will ...

Steve

On Tuesday 12/20/05 15:33 Warren Figueiredo wrote:
No, it won't be any different because I've encountered this too and I rarely
use the standard template.

How would Americans feel about adopting the 456, 256 bullet symbol the
British recently adopted? It would give us a standard symbol.

Warren



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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Bullets

Warren,

I guess there are some left-over vestiges of the '60s, although I'm
not really against all rules (or even most rules).  In this case, I
just didn't like the symbol DBTW used when it translated bullets, but
now I wonder if it would have behaved differently if I were using the
BANA Text template.  Thanks for including the rules.

Steve

On Tuesday 12/20/05 06:06 Warren Figueiredo wrote:
>Steve said: I'd be interested to know what the official rule is, but
>I'll bet I won't like it.
>
>Warren Figueiredo replies: Steve, I didn't know that you were so
>refractory to rules. Did you grow up in the sixties? <grin>
>
>The British have adopted dots 456, 256 as their new bullet symbol.
>(Should BANA adopt it, too?)
>
>Current BANA rules say the following:
>
>
> From Print to Braille Formats (Rule 7 Columned Material, Listed
> Items, Outlines, and Indexes; Section 2a(3) the following provisions are
made:
>(3) Bullets, hollow dots, check marks, and other signs printed
>before each listed item solely for visual effect must be ignored in
>braille. However, when only certain items in a list are specifically
>marked using bullets, check marks, stars, or other print signs,
>follow the directives given in Rule 3, Section 5.
>
>Rule 3 Braille Formats for Print Emphasis
>5. Specially marked items in columns and lists. Ignore bullets,
>check marks, diamonds, stars, and other visual signs that are
>printed before each item in a column or a list solely for visual
>effect. However, if only some items are shown marked with these or
>similar signs, follow the directives given below. NOTE: For
>reference marks and notes in columns and lists, see Rule 7, Section
>1g for columns, Rule 7, Section 2f for lists.
>
>When only one kind of print sign is shown with items in a column or
>list, it must be represented by the symbol dots 26, 26.
>
>If two or more different signs are shown with items in a column or
>list, they must be represented by the braille symbols provided in
>Rule 5, Section 2e which can be found at
http://www.brl.org/formats/rule05.html
>
>How was that, Steve?
>Warren


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