Hi Matthew,
As you say, somewhat off-topic for this list really.
However, I will say that the quality of paper has much to do with quality of
dots, as does the pressure setting on the embosser. Paper quality is almost
a science in itself.
Equally important as far as embossers generally are concerned is to find a
supplier who is not simply a "Box Shifter". An embosser is a long term
investment, and it more than pays to know you have top quality technical
support and engineering support when you need it, and a quick response.
George
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of M Horspool EGS
Sent: 28 March 2017 22:15
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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Embosser feedback
Hi George,
Thanks for confirming this. I thought I'd heard it somewhere, but then
couldn't find anything to back it up.
Off-topic for a Duxbury list perhaps, but how does the new Juliet 120
compare with the Index Basic D V5? Same product but different name? Same
hardware but different firmware? An Index embossing head in what is
otherwise an Enabling Technologies product? A different product altogether?
I ask because I find old Enabling braille far superior to old Index braille,
but I still prefer Index embossers on the whole as they are smaller, quicker
and personally I find them easier to use. Granted, I have spent many more
years with an Index embosser than an Enabling one, so I may have just needed
more time. It would be interesting to know whether there is still a
difference between the Index Basic and Enabling Juliette in terms of their
braille quality.
I am in the fortunate position of having used a Basic V2, V3, V4 and V5 from
index, and I still have access to all but the V2 for comparison. The braille
on the V4 was a significant step up over the braille on the V3, especially
on thinner paper - I found the V3 didn't cope with double sided braille on
thin paper very well. On thicker paper, the difference is less noticeable,
but you can still tell which braille came from which unit if you compare the
difference between the front side and the back side: the V3 adjusts
downwards for the back side, i.e. if the front side started 5 mm from the
top of the page, the back side would start probably 7 or 8 mm from the top;
the V4 doesn't seem to do this, or if it does it doesn't do it nearly as
much - maybe by 1 or 2 mm? But it looks more like a sideways adjustment to
me. It is much more subtle, in any case.
The braille quality on the V5 is meant to be even better than the V4.
Personally I cannot feel any difference on thinner paper. On thicker paper,
the dots appear to be more pronounced than on the V4 - they are much closer
to Enabling Technologies quality. They could perhaps do with still being a
little sharper, but they have at least got the shape spot on.
There is a not insubstantial difference in embossing speed between the V4
and the V5 - the V5 is noticeably quicker. I think the speed increase is
from about 100 Hz to about 120 Hz. There are some sound samples here:
http://audioboom.com/mhorspool
The difference between V3 speed and V4 speed is negligible, but if anything
I would say that the V4 was slightly slower. The V5 is still much quicker
than the V3 though.
The bottom line is that if you haven't tried in Index embosser since the
days of version 3, you are well advised to give them another go, as many of
the problems from those days have been fixed.
I can't speak to repair in the US (I am in the UK), but the V4 that I have
at home developed a hammer fault a mere three or four weeks after purchase.
It was returned under warranty and repaired free of charge, and has been
absolutely no trouble since then. It is coming up on two years old now.
Hope this has given you some insight. Sorry I can't be any help with the
other embossers mentioned.
Best wishes,
Matthew
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of George Bell
Sent: 28 March 2017 17:57
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Embosser feedback
Hi All,
Before anyone gets too confused, please be aware that Enabling Technologies
have discontinued production of their own manufacture of the Juliet
Embossers, and replace it with a unit called the "Juliet 120" made by an
external 3rd party manufacturer - Index from Sweden.
George
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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Embosser feedback
Chelsea:
I have a Juliet Pro 60 that I have had for three years now. I have not had
any problems with it; with the exception of having to go through the
computer to shut down a print job. I have not had to send it out for any
repairs as of yet; however, I would get a warranty and continue to purchase
it each year ($505.00 for yearly renewal). This will help alleviate any
repair charges that may be lurking in the woodwork. Anyway, since this is my
very first embosser, cannot comment on any others. Success to you and your
search.
Jerry
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From: Williamson, Patricia D
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:05 AM
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Subject: [duxuser] Re: Embosser feedback
Our braille department purchased 3 Juliet Classics. Within 2 years, 2 of
them broke down at the same time! It was very expensive to fix them. The
parts for one cost $32.93. The labor was $720.67! For the other one, the
parts cost $13.58. The labor was 570.00! One of those that was fixed is
starting to do shadow dots again. It took from March 2016 until August 2016
to get them back. Luckily we had our 25 year old VersaPoints and were able
to use them in the meantime. Unfortunately, our computers can't hook up the
Versapoints any longer.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:29 AM
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Subject: [duxuser] Embosser feedback
Hi all! There are a couple of embossers that I am considering purchasing, I
just haven't made a decision yet. One is the Juliet 120, the second is the
index basic D version five, and the third is the Columbia from view plus.
Have any of you used any of these embossers? They all sound good, and they
all seem to have good qualities. How are they regarding durability? What
about set up an excess ability? Thanks in advance, Chelsea
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