Catherine, we print readers are a quirky lot. If it "looks right" it must be right!! An apostrophe or a single quote can look the same or even a prime symbol can look the same in print - but to get correct braille you must start with the right symbol in the first place. Same with a zero and a capital o, or a 1 and and I and an l. Print readers will read the wrong symbol according to context but the translation will be incorrect. This is the very reason why all Word documents need to be carefully checked if you want good quality braille from Duxbury and the 1st thing I ALWAYS double check are quotes and apostrophes to ensure that correct symbols are used in Word. If a document has been produced with "smart quotes" which unfortuneately is the Word default, then these often need to be changed to simple quotes. It is amazing what things we find in documents produced by the general public. Another quirky thing I often find is spaces before punctuation such as question marks - the document producer thinks it looks cute!!!! Doesn't translate well though. The greatest skill these days that a transcriber can have (in my opinion) is a thorough understanding of how a Word document translates using Duxbury, because if you get it right first time in Word, there are less changes needed in Braille. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catherine Thomas Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 12:02 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Other Odd Symbols I recently transcribed a simple conference agenda from what had been an MS-Word document. Among the odd symbols which I came across were three different types of apostrophes, a symbol meant to stand for "trademark" and something separating times such as 9:00 to 9:30 that I had never seen before. All of these symbols translated into unrecognizable braille things. I can't replicate them here because I don't know what print characters they actually were. Is it common practice in MS-Word for ordinary symbols such as apostrophe to be replaced by something else? Catherine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -Catherine Thomas braille@xxxxxxxxx / ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *