[duxuser] Re: Spanish Translation

  • From: Tom Whalen <ptkt3860@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:52:26 -0700 (PDT)

Thanks a lot George, but one more question. When I create the word style named 
"Spanish" will it open in Duxbury as uncontracted Spanish or will I still have 
to highlight the Spanish and apply the Spanish style? Also is it possible to 
create a table around an existing document? The one I'm working on is a scanned 
300 page glossary.
   
  Tom

George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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on, but perhaps I could add some additional information.  (I'm describing the 
following using Word 2003, but the principals are the same for most earlier 
versions of Word.)
   
  In Word, I created a 2 column Table.  This is easy enough to do from the 
Table menu.  You ideally need to be specific about the number of columns, but 
if you start with say 5 rows, you only need to tab from the second cell in the 
last row, and it will automatically create another row.
   
  One important tip here when creating the table.  Do NOT press the Enter key 
in a cell.  This causes unexpected results when you import the file into DBT.  
To move to another cell to enter text, press the tab key after you have entered 
the text.  If reviewing the table, use the arrow keys to navigate.
   
  The secret now is to create a new Word Style called "spanish" (without the 
quotes), which should be a Character Style.  Assuming we want to retain much 
the same Style for Spanish text as English text, place your cursor in the 
Spanish column.  Now from Word's Format menu, select Styles and Formatting.  
This brings up a pane on the right with a button which allows you to add a NEW 
style.  In the dialog that comes up, there are really only two important fields 
to complete.  Style name and Style Type.
   
  For Style name, type spanish.  Note that this is the same name as DBT's 
spanish Style, so don't call it anything else.
   
  For Style Type, make sure you select "Character" from the drop down list.  If 
you really wish, you can make other changes to font, size and color, but let's 
keep it simple for now.
   
  So now we need to apply the spanish Style to our column.  Make sure your 
cursor is in the Spanish column.  Go to Word's Table menu, and press "Select".  
This brings up a sub-menu where you should select "Column".  This will 
highlight the entire Spanish column.
   
  Now apply the spanish Style to the column.
   
  Save your document, and open it in DBT.  Alt + F3 to turn on Codes, and you 
should see the Spanish words and/or phrases embraced with spanish styles.
   
  Your document should also appear in stairstep list form.  That is to say the 
English will begin in cell 1, and the Spanish on the next line in cell 2.
   
  O.K., so you don't like the stairrstep layout - not a problem.
   
  Go back to your Word document.  With your cursor in the table, go to Word's 
Table menu, choose Convert, and then "Table to Text".  THE MOST important thing 
to look at is the dialog which comes up, and make a choice of how you wish the 
columns to be separated.  You can select Paragraph Marks, Tabs, Commas or 
Other.  If you select Other, you can then enter one character of your choosing, 
such as a dash for example.
   
  Click the O.K. button, and miraculously your table will now appear as text 
with the two columns separated as you have requested - and with a dash between 
the English and Spanish if that's what you chose.
   
  If you now save and import this into DBT, you will find your text is no 
longer stairstep but in individual lines or paragraphs for each word or phrase.
   
  This may sound a shade daunting, but follow the instruction carefully and 
it's actually a doddle.
   
  George Bell.
    
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  From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Kathy Riessen
Sent: 24 May 2006 02:22
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Spanish Translation


  
    Just a suggestion to speed things up for you
  If you are Using the Braille Template, in Word
  Why don't you start by producing the Word document in a table:
  Column 1: Word 
  Column 2: Meaning
   
  You can then highlight Column 1 and set to Spanish, leave Column 2 English, 
or vice versa
  Following this, convert table to text with a colon as the separator
  Voila: Spanish and English with minimum fuss
  Occasional words in the meaning section, will have to be changed manually.
   
  Kathy
   
      
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  From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Tom Whalen
Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2006 4:05 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Spanish Translation

   
    Hello list, I an translating a book, which is basically a Spanish to 
English and a English to Spanish dictionary on medical, legal, and slang terms. 
In the past I would just highlight the Spanish words and apply the Spanish 
style. It will not be feasible to do so in this book, as it is 300 pages long. 
So my question is, if I apply the Spanish style to the whole document will the 
English text be converted to Grade 1 braille? 

     

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom Whalen

    Mesa State College

    Grand Junction, Co 81504

    970-248-1307 

    
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