[duxuser] Re: Spanish Translation
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:40:17 +0100
Hi Tom,
Doing it the way I described, will automatically provide you
with the Spanish Style in DBT which will be uncontracted.
As regards creating a Word table round an existing document,
this is reasonably doable with some degree of care.
I am assuming you have one line per entry, or should I
perhaps say that you have a hard carriage return after each
entry.
I am also assuming that you have what in effect are two
pieces of information per line, such the English word or
phrase, followed by the Spanish word or phrase.
What is needed now is a unique single character separator
between each piece of information, such as a dash, a colon,
a vertical bar or whatever. Remember that this character
must not appear anywhere else on the line.
You can now use Word's Table, Convert to convert Text to
Table. But first highlight the text you wish to be
converted. Hopefully you can do a Ctrl + a to select all
text here.
When you choose the Convert Text to Table option, you will
find the dialog contains a section called "Separate text at"
with four radio buttons. Select "Other" and in the adjacent
box, type the character you have used to separate English
and Spanish.
Before you hit OK, tab back up to the top where the "Number
of Columns" should have changed from 1 to 2. If this is not
2, then you have a problem. If it's more, you have an extra
unique character on one or more lines. If it's still at 1,
you have not selected the text at all.
All being well, your text will now be a two column table,
where you can continue as described earlier. I would
suggest however that you check the result visually or
otherwise.
Good luck,
George.
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom
Whalen
Sent: 24 May 2006 15:52
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Spanish Translation
Thanks a lot George, but one more question. When I create
the word style named "Spanish" will it open in Duxbury as
uncontracted Spanish or will I still have to highlight the
Spanish and apply the Spanish style? Also is it possible to
create a table around an existing document? The one I'm
working on is a scanned 300 page glossary.
Tom
George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Kathy's advice is spot on, but perhaps I could add
some additional information. (I'm describing the following
using Word 2003, but the principals are the same for most
earlier versions of Word.)
In Word, I created a 2 column Table. This is easy
enough to do from the Table menu. You ideally need to be
specific about the number of columns, but if you start with
say 5 rows, you only need to tab from the second cell in the
last row, and it will automatically create another row.
One important tip here when creating the table. Do
NOT press the Enter key in a cell. This causes unexpected
results when you import the file into DBT. To move to
another cell to enter text, press the tab key after you have
entered the text. If reviewing the table, use the arrow
keys to navigate.
The secret now is to create a new Word Style called
"spanish" (without the quotes), which should be a Character
Style. Assuming we want to retain much the same Style for
Spanish text as English text, place your cursor in the
Spanish column. Now from Word's Format menu, select Styles
and Formatting. This brings up a pane on the right with a
button which allows you to add a NEW style. In the dialog
that comes up, there are really only two important fields to
complete. Style name and Style Type.
For Style name, type spanish. Note that this is the
same name as DBT's spanish Style, so don't call it anything
else.
For Style Type, make sure you select "Character"
from the drop down list. If you really wish, you can make
other changes to font, size and color, but let's keep it
simple for now.
So now we need to apply the spanish Style to our
column. Make sure your cursor is in the Spanish column. Go
to Word's Table menu, and press "Select". This brings up a
sub-menu where you should select "Column". This will
highlight the entire Spanish column.
Now apply the spanish Style to the column.
Save your document, and open it in DBT. Alt + F3 to
turn on Codes, and you should see the Spanish words and/or
phrases embraced with spanish styles.
Your document should also appear in stairstep list
form. That is to say the English will begin in cell 1, and
the Spanish on the next line in cell 2.
O.K., so you don't like the stairrstep layout - not
a problem.
Go back to your Word document. With your cursor in
the table, go to Word's Table menu, choose Convert, and then
"Table to Text". THE MOST important thing to look at is the
dialog which comes up, and make a choice of how you wish the
columns to be separated. You can select Paragraph Marks,
Tabs, Commas or Other. If you select Other, you can then
enter one character of your choosing, such as a dash for
example.
Click the O.K. button, and miraculously your table
will now appear as text with the two columns separated as
you have requested - and with a dash between the English and
Spanish if that's what you chose.
If you now save and import this into DBT, you will
find your text is no longer stairstep but in individual
lines or paragraphs for each word or phrase.
This may sound a shade daunting, but follow the
instruction carefully and it's actually a doddle.
George Bell.
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kathy
Riessen
Sent: 24 May 2006 02:22
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Spanish Translation
Just a suggestion to speed things up for you
If you are Using the Braille Template, in Word
Why don't you start by producing the Word document
in a table:
Column 1: Word
Column 2: Meaning
You can then highlight Column 1 and set to Spanish,
leave Column 2 English, or vice versa
Following this, convert table to text with a colon
as the separator
Voila: Spanish and English with minimum fuss
Occasional words in the meaning section, will have
to be changed manually.
Kathy
________________________________
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom
Whalen
Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2006 4:05 AM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Spanish Translation
Hello list, I an translating a book, which is
basically a Spanish to English and a English to Spanish
dictionary on medical, legal, and slang terms. In the past I
would just highlight the Spanish words and apply the Spanish
style. It will not be feasible to do so in this book, as it
is 300 pages long. So my question is, if I apply the Spanish
style to the whole document will the English text be
converted to Grade 1 braille?
Thanks in advance,
Tom Whalen
Mesa State College
Grand Junction, Co 81504
970-248-1307
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