I don’t remember any of the AFROTC cadre (or Navy/Marine Cadre, except for the
Gunny Sergeant, who you couldn’t miss). Lt Holzman was the only female bull I
recall. I interacted with her as little as possible. I think she was an AG
officer.
Mary Ellen and I still keep up with Ruth Ann. She’s a class act. Her husband,
Julian, is a retired LT General (or maybe a MG or a 4 star; I forget which),
who moved with Ruth Ann back to the town he grew up in, where they live in the
same house he grew up in. He has a political position in the Camden area.
Camden has a big steeplechase race every year, with a lot of tailgating, kind
of like a football game, only with horses, and we enjoyed visiting with them
there when my son Justin was stationed at Shaw AFB. I introduced them to
Boulevardier cocktails, and I understand that is now Julian’s favorite. After
the Clemson game one year (when I surprised Bill Schwenson, who didn’t
recognize me with a beard, but did immediately recognize me from my voice),
Julian and Ruth Ann invited us to a party with some Clemson alumni. A&M had
just demolished their team, and they couldn’t have been nicer to us. The food
was great and the bar was most impressive.
I think my favorite Army bull was Captain Orr. He was helpful and instructive
without being a jerk.
Jeff
On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:22 AM, Patrick Pennington (Redacted sender "aggiefnp"
for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree with Ted. LT Holtzman was the only female bull. She tried so hard to
be a ballbuster and failed miserably. I think the Aggie bulls weren’t
particularly enamored with her but the non Aggie ones treated her decently.
Rumor was CPT Webber our Army advisor was nailing her. I never believed it
until our butt year when Brian Green got me a job as a projectionist/cashier
at the Sun Theater and they walked in together to watch the groad flicks. I
kept my eyes straight ahead and didn’t act like I knew them or make eye
contact but I know he knew I recognized them. Hell, I was getting ready for
summer camp and spent enough time in his office. Groad
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On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:14 AM, Patrick Pennington <AggieFNP@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Queso, Ruth Ann was a good friend who just wanted to be a good Aggie and
officer. I did and do respect her a lot, but her hubby, JB is a political
douche IMO. She obviously loves him so what can I say? Oh, it wasn’t me that
sent ya. Groad
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On Mar 15, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Robert Spiller <rspiller@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It was not me!
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Subject: [fighting_texas_aggie_band_class_of_1977] Re: Female AFROTC
instructor
Ruth Ann was our same class year. Not a bull. Or a bull-ette!
I once had a dinner date with her spring 77 and someone... I wonder who,
sent me to the quad the next day. A Monday. Duncan was closed on Sunday
nights. We had to eat off campus. My only quadding.
Anyone in this group gonna fess up?
Edward Retta
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On Mar 15, 2021 22:11, Stephen Wright <dr.wilbur.wright@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Only one I knew was Ruth Ann Schumacher but I think she went Army.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:05 PM Michael Brown <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hey, Dr. COL Wright, or other Air Force guys.
Do any of you recall a female officer in the ROTC detachment during our
years there?
Having an online discussion with a guy who claims his mom was one, in the
first year women were in the Corps, so 1974-1975. Says the male officers
treated her like crap, and some cadets refused to salute.
Sounds like a fairy tale to me, I was D&C, but would have been taken ROTC
in pisshead year, and I don't recall a female. You'd think one would be
rare enough to register on me.
A scan of the Aggielands online also fails to show any female officers in
any branch.
Dean
--
Dr Steve "Wilbur" Wright
