[mac4theblind] Use of Root on Unix environments, especially the Mac was Re: the bard mobile app user guide ends with a bang:
- From: Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:27:28 -0400
How about we adjust the subject header since there might be some value here.
See if my subject change does the trick.
On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Could we please keep to subject. I do apologise for replying on this
> directly, having just got back from a hectic day's work, answering emails,
> etc I've just realised this thread didn't line up with John Harden's thread.
> Very sorry.
>
> Lew.
> Edward Lewis Redfern
> Moderator / Support
> Mac For The Blind.
>
> On 14 Oct 2013, at 18:15, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On a Mac especially there's almost never a need to become root when you can
>> spawn new processes as root where needed and not involve the user. You
>> might and maybe something really low level needs to be done to fix that
>> drive but with the proper tools and permission structure I doubt it.
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:12 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I fail to understand the point here. we've a drive that needs working
>>> with, when youy set root user you are warned and I agree I probably should
>>> have mentioned it. I do not mention it lightly but when necessary and used
>>> judiciously, it's a useful tool.
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Or ignore all this stuff and backup to remote drives off site. Something
>>> like carbonate or maybe you're own remote server with NFS shares. (insert
>>> your share type here)
>>>
>>> As for root, I second everything Loo says, be careful. When I worked in a
>>> Unix admin capacity we would always give new admins the speech about using
>>> root.
>>>
>>> Be careful!
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Root user is usable, but if a mistake happens within root user, it's a
>>>> system wide mistake and can cause damage. unless you're a highly competent
>>>> user, leave root user alone.
>>>>
>>>> Where it comes to an external HDD, I think you'll find that any number of
>>>> issues can occur with even a new drive such as read write buffer underrun
>>>> errors, caching errors, partition structure corruption errors and many
>>>> more besides. I speak of what I know too well hence being in this
>>>> background long enough.
>>>>
>>>> There are a number of tools to diagnose a drive's behaviour including it's
>>>> data pass through. remember that the controller used to the drive may also
>>>> be an issue. you must assess all areas of a system, component, etc before
>>>> you make an assumption.
>>>>
>>>> what was the phrase? assume means making an ass out of u and me. lol I
>>>> love that one. it's timeless.
>>>>
>>>> When dealing with cloning the drive or centents, I recommend the use of
>>>> SuperDuper which allows access to case sensitive structures. converting to
>>>> an ISO and mounting the ISO on the main HD would allow a data recovery
>>>> where possible, then we can set to a volume rebuild. judging by the size
>>>> of drive, contents to the drive, you should consider what the user has on
>>>> the drive, even if the drive is from a system pull, etc. how many actual
>>>> partitions are on the drive, etc.
>>>>
>>>> lew
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Oct 2013, at 13:47, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> how does one go about reformatting a drive like this? If root user will
>>>>> get at the drive to pull the stuff off, that's what we need to do. there
>>>>> is nothing rong with the drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 2:14 AM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> lol no worries mate. just a certain person who we won't mention here
>>>>> gives certain people the CREEPS!
>>>>>
>>>>> lew
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:52, John Harden <jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. Didn't mean to bring up bad memories.
>>>>>> John Harden
>>>>>> Quality Brailler Repair LLC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For professional Perkins Braille Writer repair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 386-238-5871
>>>>>> jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> 145 N. Halifax Ave. #605
>>>>>> Daytona Beach, FL 32118
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:42 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman
>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can we please stay away away from the mention of anything directly
>>>>>>> associated with "Barefoot" It's enough when you're just tucking into
>>>>>>> something highly addictive, then to hear that lol also it might worry a
>>>>>>> few users who are reminded, like me, if a certain person we won't
>>>>>>> mention. the thought's enough for me to lock myself in a site case
>>>>>>> until it's quiet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> take care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:37, John Harden <jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I will certainly go read that section of the users manual but to
>>>>>>>> knock my socks off would be hard. Constantly barefoot is more like it.
>>>>>>>> I haven't had socks on since last winter.
>>>>>>>> John Harden
>>>>>>>> Quality Brailler Repair LLC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For professional Perkins Braille Writer repair.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 386-238-5871
>>>>>>>> jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> 145 N. Halifax Ave. #605
>>>>>>>> Daytona Beach, FL 32118
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 3:29 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman
>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The tips and tricks section of the bard mobile app user guide is a
>>>>>>>>> must read. It'll knock your socks off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jonnie Appleseed
>>>>>>>>> With His
>>>>>>>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
>>>>>>>>> touching the internet
>>>>>>>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities
>>>>>>>>> One Byte At a time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ************
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes
>>>>>>>>> to their list subscription is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The list archive is located at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ************
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes
>>>>>>>> to their list subscription is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The list archive is located at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jonnie Appleseed
>>>>>>> With His
>>>>>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
>>>>>>> touching the internet
>>>>>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities
>>>>>>> One Byte At a time
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
>>>>>>> their list subscription is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The list archive is located at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
>>>>>> their list subscription is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The list archive is located at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jonnie Appleseed
>>>>> With His
>>>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
>>>>> touching the internet
>>>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities
>>>>> One Byte At a time
>>>>>
>>>>> ************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
>>>>> their list subscription is:
>>>>>
>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>>>
>>>>> The list archive is located at
>>>>>
>>>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>>>
>>>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>>>
>>>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ************
>>>
>>>
>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>
>>>
>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
>>> their list subscription is:
>>>
>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>
>>> The list archive is located at
>>>
>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>
>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonnie Appleseed
>>> With His
>>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
>>> touching the internet
>>> Reducing Technology's disabilities
>>> One Byte At a time
>>>
>>> ************
>>>
>>>
>>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>>
>>>
>>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
>>> their list subscription is:
>>>
>>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>>
>>> The list archive is located at
>>>
>>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>>
>>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>>
>>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>
>> ************
>>
>>
>> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
>>
>>
>> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
>> their list subscription is:
>>
>> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
>>
>> The list archive is located at
>>
>> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
>>
>> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
>>
>> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>
************
You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list.
The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to
their list subscription is:
//www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind
The list archive is located at
//www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/
All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to:
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Other related posts:
- » [mac4theblind] Use of Root on Unix environments, especially the Mac was Re: the bard mobile app user guide ends with a bang: - Scott Granados
