Could we please keep to subject. I do apologise for replying on this directly, having just got back from a hectic day's work, answering emails, etc I've just realised this thread didn't line up with John Harden's thread. Very sorry. Lew. Edward Lewis Redfern Moderator / Support Mac For The Blind. On 14 Oct 2013, at 18:15, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On a Mac especially there's almost never a need to become root when you can > spawn new processes as root where needed and not involve the user. You might > and maybe something really low level needs to be done to fix that drive but > with the proper tools and permission structure I doubt it. > > On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:12 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> I fail to understand the point here. we've a drive that needs working with, >> when youy set root user you are warned and I agree I probably should have >> mentioned it. I do not mention it lightly but when necessary and used >> judiciously, it's a useful tool. >> >> On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Or ignore all this stuff and backup to remote drives off site. Something >> like carbonate or maybe you're own remote server with NFS shares. (insert >> your share type here) >> >> As for root, I second everything Loo says, be careful. When I worked in a >> Unix admin capacity we would always give new admins the speech about using >> root. >> >> Be careful! >> >> On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Root user is usable, but if a mistake happens within root user, it's a >>> system wide mistake and can cause damage. unless you're a highly competent >>> user, leave root user alone. >>> >>> Where it comes to an external HDD, I think you'll find that any number of >>> issues can occur with even a new drive such as read write buffer underrun >>> errors, caching errors, partition structure corruption errors and many more >>> besides. I speak of what I know too well hence being in this background >>> long enough. >>> >>> There are a number of tools to diagnose a drive's behaviour including it's >>> data pass through. remember that the controller used to the drive may also >>> be an issue. you must assess all areas of a system, component, etc before >>> you make an assumption. >>> >>> what was the phrase? assume means making an ass out of u and me. lol I love >>> that one. it's timeless. >>> >>> When dealing with cloning the drive or centents, I recommend the use of >>> SuperDuper which allows access to case sensitive structures. converting to >>> an ISO and mounting the ISO on the main HD would allow a data recovery >>> where possible, then we can set to a volume rebuild. judging by the size of >>> drive, contents to the drive, you should consider what the user has on the >>> drive, even if the drive is from a system pull, etc. how many actual >>> partitions are on the drive, etc. >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 14 Oct 2013, at 13:47, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> how does one go about reformatting a drive like this? If root user will >>>> get at the drive to pull the stuff off, that's what we need to do. there >>>> is nothing rong with the drive. >>>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 2:14 AM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> lol no worries mate. just a certain person who we won't mention here gives >>>> certain people the CREEPS! >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:52, John Harden <jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry. Didn't mean to bring up bad memories. >>>>> John Harden >>>>> Quality Brailler Repair LLC >>>>> >>>>> For professional Perkins Braille Writer repair. >>>>> >>>>> 386-238-5871 >>>>> jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> 145 N. Halifax Ave. #605 >>>>> Daytona Beach, FL 32118 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:42 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> who? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Edward Redfern <edwardredfern@xxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> can we please stay away away from the mention of anything directly >>>>>> associated with "Barefoot" It's enough when you're just tucking into >>>>>> something highly addictive, then to hear that lol also it might worry a >>>>>> few users who are reminded, like me, if a certain person we won't >>>>>> mention. the thought's enough for me to lock myself in a site case until >>>>>> it's quiet. >>>>>> >>>>>> lol >>>>>> >>>>>> take care. >>>>>> >>>>>> lew >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:37, John Harden <jharden01@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I will certainly go read that section of the users manual but to >>>>>>> knock my socks off would be hard. 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