[mac4theblind] Re: observations on iPhone 5s and ios7 through 02
- From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:08:09 -0700
O my who made you the moderator??? And it is tipical of you you get your
worthless 2 cents in and then in the next email say it is not to be
discussed on this list get a life
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert Poehlman
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 19:53
> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: observations on iPhone 5s and ios7 through
> 02
>
> as I said before, we cannot abide this discussion on the list. Please
> take it elsewhere.
>
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Samuel Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I have only ever had an iPhone, but have debated/toyed with the idea of
> getting a Droid Nexus. Thing is, I haven't found any objective, in
> depth, accessibility and real world feature analysis of both the Nexus
> and the new 5s.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knew of a link or a source I could check to
> get such an analysis. Realistically, as I've spent loads of money on
> Apple apps, I'd like to stay with Apple, but ever time contract comes
> up to renewal, I do like giving every option a fair shake.
>
> As for Windows phone, I'm assuming accessibility is still a joke.
>
> > On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:17 PM, "David Hilbert Poehlman"
> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > What do you think of the enhanced Siri?
> >
> > I love being able to go to accessibility settings or to turn things
> off and on or on and off as the case may be.
> >
> > This can be fun if you don't get to serious about it <grin>
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Off to dinner.
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:01 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > I wanted to reply to David's below post when I received my iPhone 5S.
> I have been using mine for the last few days, and I must agree with his
> observations.
> >
> > VoiceOver definitely seems to run faster and more smoothly on the 5S
> compared to my 5. It's not something I'd say is a "major" difference,
> but it is still noticeable. I also don't have the focus issues as
> frequently as I had.
> >
> > Lastly the Touch ID is amazing. Note that you still have to set a
> passcode and it will not work if you do not choose to set a passcode.
> Once you do, you use your fingerprint to unlock the phone. The only
> time the passcode is necessary is the first time you unlock the phone
> after the phone starts.
> >
> >
> > Take Care
> >
> > John D. Panarese
> > Director
> > Mac for the Blind
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> > Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 29, 2013, at 4:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman
> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> - I promised a review of iOS7 after a week or so, and now that time
> has come but I'm not yet finished. This operating system has a lot to
> offer and I want to be interesting, fun and fair in my reporting of my
> assessment.
> >>
> >> - I have a surprise for you as well. One of the reasons for a bit
> of tardiness is that I also have an iPhone 5s to review as well so
> we'll cover both in this review.
> >>
> >> I'm reporting iOS7 on my iPod touch 5.
> >> and a space gray iPhone 64GB 5s.
> >>
> >> - If you have not yet made either move and you are the least bit
> trepedacious about it, don't.. Watch the list and other resources for
> >> moves toward lessening trepidation.
> >>
> >> - I'm overall thrilled with iOS7 and iPhone 5s even though I'm
> facing an issue which - I hope to have resolved soon with the voiceover
> volume control in the rotor on the 5s. This issue is fairly widely
> known and apple are hopefully working on a fix.
> >>
> >> - When I move around the iPhone or my iPod touch, I discover that
> they both seem to be a bit jumpy although turning reduced motion on on
> the 5s seems to mitigate this a bit.
> >>
> >> - There are a couple of twists in touch typing now. Often, when
> typing, i'll be presented with an alternate character picker which may
> well be due to screen sensitivity and at times while typing again using
> touch typing, I begin hearing the word select as I traverse the
> keyboard.
> >>
> >> That in a nutshell is my review although I've a good deal more to
> share which some might find interesting so if you don't want to read a
> long detailed report on the events and experiences leading up to the
> above conclusions, stopping here will not only provide you with what
> you need to make a current decision but also spare you from what is to
> come.
> >> The adventure:
> >>
> >> - iOS 7 was acquired late on the 18th and placed onto an iPhone4s
> and an iPod touch 5 both 64GB and both less than a month old.
> >>
> >> - The screen interaction issues were observed soon after the updates
> were installed.
> >>
> >> - The 4s was just sluggish enough to push us over the edge since we
> were close anyway, towards getting 5esses.
> >>
> >> We set out bright and early on the morning of the launch and arrived
> at the apple store shortly before 9. We were given our cards thus
> affirming our places in line. The line moved fairly quickly and before
> we knew it, we were some ways in back of it. An apple store employee
> moved us inside and our position in the cue was held till it was our
> turn in line. Boy, what a racket but also, what a difference from two
> years ago when the 4s was launched. I think the crowd was even bigger.
> >>
> >> We were told when filling in our cards that only "space gray" was
> available and decided we'd not mind that all things considered. Our
> turn to be served came quickly enough and we got phones and cases.
> >>
> >> Beginning the transfer from 4s to 5s was fairly straightforward and
> typical of say setting up a phone as new or even restoring from an
> earlier backup. (We traded our phones in). As our business as
> concluded after the initial setup, as is my want I decided to lock my
> phone so that I could stow it in my pocket. It would not lock. After
> a bit, this was determined to be you guessed it, a hardware issue so I
> was given a new phone but not so fast. There was a bit of trouble in
> that for some reason, my att info was not being transferred to the new
> phone. This was eventually sorted and just before noon, we were on our
> way.
> >>
> >> Things I love about iOS7:
> >>
> >> - iTunes radio is awesome!
> >>
> >> - I love the new VO gestures.
> >>
> >> - I am pleased at the way the app switcher and the control center
> gestures work as well as the new spotlight search gesture and others.
> >>
> >> - When you begin working with the 5s, you'll notice right away that
> the home button is just a bit larger than that of the other devices and
> that is due to the ring around it for helping with the touch id
> feature.
> >>
> >> - I set up the touch id on friday night, went to bed, and found when
> I woke and attempted to use my fingerprint to unlock the phone, it was
> not happening. I relate this so that you will know what to do in the
> event this happens to you. Restore the phone. To do this, now, you
> must turn off find my iPhone if it is in use.
> >>
> >> - Even the 5s is somewhat slow to respond to requests for activity
> which surprised me. I did turn on reduced motion which seems to have
> helped.
> >>
> >> to a second iPhone?
> >>
> >> - The story should end here, but I discovered a bug I'd not seen
> mentioned anywhere on Wednesday the 25th which was startling and I was
> surprised that I'd over looked it till
> >> then. The voiceover volume in the rotor does not adjust upward
> above %35.
> >>
> >> - A case on this was established with apple and an appointment to
> visit the apple store was eventually made for Friday the 27th. The
> phone was swapped out to no avail. Further research just prior to the
> return to the apple store revealed at least one other person having
> this issue.
> >>
> >> - So, as you can see, the store is not yet complete even after three
> iPhones. I'm waiting on some information from apple support staff who
> are reviewing this issue. I'll bring this information to the list as
> soon as I am able.
> >>
> >> This review/summation is written in hope that someone will be helped
> by its contents.
> >>
> >> Explanation of omissions:
> >> The specifications of the new iOS and the new devices are available
> on the apple web and the list of bugs is widely published. This report
> is observational only and a bit beyond that in order to provide full
> and unique information.
> >>
> >> We are all served best when we work together to move toward a better
> technological community.
> >>
> >> Any errors or misstatements in this missive are solely the
> responsibility of the author who would be flattered if you'd join him
> in uncovering yet more interesting facts about the current crop of new
> apples. No oranges please though, too much acid.
> >>
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