[mac4theblind] Re: observations on iPhone 5s and ios7 through 02
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 11:07:18 -0400
at your peril. I answered john because there was information needed. Please,
john, put a stop to discussion of anything but what the list is for even if you
need to kick some tail.
Thanks!
On Oct 5, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Samuel Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, thankfully John provided an answer, which is great. Thanks.
As for David, I think the wisest MO, at least for me, is to simply ignore him.
To address the topic, though, I actually think a discussion is just right for
this forum and for the macfortheblind.com webpage. Obviously, by the name of
the website, people are gonna know where John is coming from, e.g. the Apple
perspective, but considering Google's accessibility, having a side by side, in
depth comparison and analysis from people who have used both devices
extensively would likely win more people to the Apple side of things.
Thing is, it has been two years since I've evaluated my choice, and loads of
things have changed since then, so, me being myself and saying I wish to be
fair, despite my own Apple leanings, seems perfectly within the rules of this
forum and with my personal style.
And that's all I intend on contributing on this thread.
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 10:08 PM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> O my who made you the moderator??? And it is tipical of you you get your
> worthless 2 cents in and then in the next email say it is not to be
> discussed on this list get a life
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind-
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert Poehlman
>> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 19:53
>> To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: observations on iPhone 5s and ios7 through
>> 02
>>
>> as I said before, we cannot abide this discussion on the list. Please
>> take it elsewhere.
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Samuel Negron <samuel_negron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have only ever had an iPhone, but have debated/toyed with the idea of
>> getting a Droid Nexus. Thing is, I haven't found any objective, in
>> depth, accessibility and real world feature analysis of both the Nexus
>> and the new 5s.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone knew of a link or a source I could check to
>> get such an analysis. Realistically, as I've spent loads of money on
>> Apple apps, I'd like to stay with Apple, but ever time contract comes
>> up to renewal, I do like giving every option a fair shake.
>>
>> As for Windows phone, I'm assuming accessibility is still a joke.
>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:17 PM, "David Hilbert Poehlman"
>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> What do you think of the enhanced Siri?
>>>
>>> I love being able to go to accessibility settings or to turn things
>> off and on or on and off as the case may be.
>>>
>>> This can be fun if you don't get to serious about it <grin>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Off to dinner.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:01 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wanted to reply to David's below post when I received my iPhone 5S.
>> I have been using mine for the last few days, and I must agree with his
>> observations.
>>>
>>> VoiceOver definitely seems to run faster and more smoothly on the 5S
>> compared to my 5. It's not something I'd say is a "major" difference,
>> but it is still noticeable. I also don't have the focus issues as
>> frequently as I had.
>>>
>>> Lastly the Touch ID is amazing. Note that you still have to set a
>> passcode and it will not work if you do not choose to set a passcode.
>> Once you do, you use your fingerprint to unlock the phone. The only
>> time the passcode is necessary is the first time you unlock the phone
>> after the phone starts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>
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>> LION
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 29, 2013, at 4:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman
>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> - I promised a review of iOS7 after a week or so, and now that time
>> has come but I'm not yet finished. This operating system has a lot to
>> offer and I want to be interesting, fun and fair in my reporting of my
>> assessment.
>>>>
>>>> - I have a surprise for you as well. One of the reasons for a bit
>> of tardiness is that I also have an iPhone 5s to review as well so
>> we'll cover both in this review.
>>>>
>>>> I'm reporting iOS7 on my iPod touch 5.
>>>> and a space gray iPhone 64GB 5s.
>>>>
>>>> - If you have not yet made either move and you are the least bit
>> trepedacious about it, don't.. Watch the list and other resources for
>>>> moves toward lessening trepidation.
>>>>
>>>> - I'm overall thrilled with iOS7 and iPhone 5s even though I'm
>> facing an issue which - I hope to have resolved soon with the voiceover
>> volume control in the rotor on the 5s. This issue is fairly widely
>> known and apple are hopefully working on a fix.
>>>>
>>>> - When I move around the iPhone or my iPod touch, I discover that
>> they both seem to be a bit jumpy although turning reduced motion on on
>> the 5s seems to mitigate this a bit.
>>>>
>>>> - There are a couple of twists in touch typing now. Often, when
>> typing, i'll be presented with an alternate character picker which may
>> well be due to screen sensitivity and at times while typing again using
>> touch typing, I begin hearing the word select as I traverse the
>> keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> That in a nutshell is my review although I've a good deal more to
>> share which some might find interesting so if you don't want to read a
>> long detailed report on the events and experiences leading up to the
>> above conclusions, stopping here will not only provide you with what
>> you need to make a current decision but also spare you from what is to
>> come.
>>>> The adventure:
>>>>
>>>> - iOS 7 was acquired late on the 18th and placed onto an iPhone4s
>> and an iPod touch 5 both 64GB and both less than a month old.
>>>>
>>>> - The screen interaction issues were observed soon after the updates
>> were installed.
>>>>
>>>> - The 4s was just sluggish enough to push us over the edge since we
>> were close anyway, towards getting 5esses.
>>>>
>>>> We set out bright and early on the morning of the launch and arrived
>> at the apple store shortly before 9. We were given our cards thus
>> affirming our places in line. The line moved fairly quickly and before
>> we knew it, we were some ways in back of it. An apple store employee
>> moved us inside and our position in the cue was held till it was our
>> turn in line. Boy, what a racket but also, what a difference from two
>> years ago when the 4s was launched. I think the crowd was even bigger.
>>>>
>>>> We were told when filling in our cards that only "space gray" was
>> available and decided we'd not mind that all things considered. Our
>> turn to be served came quickly enough and we got phones and cases.
>>>>
>>>> Beginning the transfer from 4s to 5s was fairly straightforward and
>> typical of say setting up a phone as new or even restoring from an
>> earlier backup. (We traded our phones in). As our business as
>> concluded after the initial setup, as is my want I decided to lock my
>> phone so that I could stow it in my pocket. It would not lock. After
>> a bit, this was determined to be you guessed it, a hardware issue so I
>> was given a new phone but not so fast. There was a bit of trouble in
>> that for some reason, my att info was not being transferred to the new
>> phone. This was eventually sorted and just before noon, we were on our
>> way.
>>>>
>>>> Things I love about iOS7:
>>>>
>>>> - iTunes radio is awesome!
>>>>
>>>> - I love the new VO gestures.
>>>>
>>>> - I am pleased at the way the app switcher and the control center
>> gestures work as well as the new spotlight search gesture and others.
>>>>
>>>> - When you begin working with the 5s, you'll notice right away that
>> the home button is just a bit larger than that of the other devices and
>> that is due to the ring around it for helping with the touch id
>> feature.
>>>>
>>>> - I set up the touch id on friday night, went to bed, and found when
>> I woke and attempted to use my fingerprint to unlock the phone, it was
>> not happening. I relate this so that you will know what to do in the
>> event this happens to you. Restore the phone. To do this, now, you
>> must turn off find my iPhone if it is in use.
>>>>
>>>> - Even the 5s is somewhat slow to respond to requests for activity
>> which surprised me. I did turn on reduced motion which seems to have
>> helped.
>>>>
>>>> to a second iPhone?
>>>>
>>>> - The story should end here, but I discovered a bug I'd not seen
>> mentioned anywhere on Wednesday the 25th which was startling and I was
>> surprised that I'd over looked it till
>>>> then. The voiceover volume in the rotor does not adjust upward
>> above %35.
>>>>
>>>> - A case on this was established with apple and an appointment to
>> visit the apple store was eventually made for Friday the 27th. The
>> phone was swapped out to no avail. Further research just prior to the
>> return to the apple store revealed at least one other person having
>> this issue.
>>>>
>>>> - So, as you can see, the store is not yet complete even after three
>> iPhones. I'm waiting on some information from apple support staff who
>> are reviewing this issue. I'll bring this information to the list as
>> soon as I am able.
>>>>
>>>> This review/summation is written in hope that someone will be helped
>> by its contents.
>>>>
>>>> Explanation of omissions:
>>>> The specifications of the new iOS and the new devices are available
>> on the apple web and the list of bugs is widely published. This report
>> is observational only and a bit beyond that in order to provide full
>> and unique information.
>>>>
>>>> We are all served best when we work together to move toward a better
>> technological community.
>>>>
>>>> Any errors or misstatements in this missive are solely the
>> responsibility of the author who would be flattered if you'd join him
>> in uncovering yet more interesting facts about the current crop of new
>> apples. No oranges please though, too much acid.
>>>>
>>>> --
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