[raspberry-vi] Re: Pringles Speaker
- From: "Michael A. Ray" <mike.ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:15:18 +0000
Jonathon,
I could listen to a text book with eSpeak but 'Lady Chatterley's Lover'
loses some of it's appeal.
I know I'm in the minority but I also think I'm in the minority when it
comes to typing speeds.
I used to use Supernova with the ScanSoft Daniel voice but when I hear
it now I cringe.
For me it comes down to the fact that the voice is only there to
navigate the desktop, I don't care about nuances or emphasis.
I make audio books which are just bearable with 'ScanSoft Emily' SAPI
voice, but even that lacks contextual intonation, of course. It's
possible to improve that with SSML but that takes too long.
Mike
On 29/03/2013 12:01, Jonathan Horniblow (Talking Newspaper Services) wrote:
> Ooops! I just saw Michael's reply, which must have been posted at the
> same time as mine!
>
> In general, you'd agree you were in a minority, though? Or maybe not?
>
> You couldn't listen to a book with espeak. Or could you?
>
> I'd be genuinely interested to know.
>
> OK, yes, I'm impressed that espeak fits into 1.4Mb, but I'm just
> surprised that pure synthesis (as opposed to sample-based with 200Mb+
> data) hasn't really moved on since 1995.
>
> My experience with playing several different synthesizers (including
> festival, espeak, Cepstral, Cereproc, Ivona etc) to people reliant on
> synthesis to access written stuff is that the reaction is "if you use
> the first two, you might as well not bother". Even Cepstral doesn't
> find much favour - it's only at the Cereproc/Ivona end of things that
> a level of acceptability is found.
>
> All of that said, the sample group is older people who have lost sight
> with age, so a linear ebook read in a natural human voice is a
> different use case from an ultra-fast responding robot voice.
>
> That's the angle I was coming from when I said what I said.
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Michael A. Ray
> <mike.ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Philistines! Bow down to eSpeak, the greatest speech synthesizer that
>> ever lived. More language support than most, more responsive than
>> Eloquence, faster than a speeding bullet and laughs in the face of SAPI.
>>
>> Fiddling about with speech settings is the blind person's equivalent to
>> a sighted person fiddling with their desktop theme. Stop listening to
>> the voice and do some real work!
>>
>> It's only there to tell me whether I'm on a combo box or an edit
>> control, not to empathise with my mood ffs.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/03/2013 11:25, Jonathan Horniblow (Talking Newspaper Services) wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Tim Chase
>>> <raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Besides, using espeak voices, can they actually get much worse, even
>>>> if you play them through a Pringles can? (grins, ducks, and runs)
>>>
>>> No need to duck and run - I completely agree!
>>> I mean, this is shocking.
>>> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/samples/raven.ogg
>>> It's 2013 FFS!
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