[audacity4blind] Re: Keyboard commands do not work

  • From: Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:06:11 GMT

| From "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> 
| Mon, 7 Nov 2011 07:18:41 -0600
| Subject: Keyboard commands do not work
> audacity doesn't allow you to hear where the markers are set by issuing
> commands that play a few seconds of the file from where the markers are
> set forward.  Mp3 Direct Cut has such commands so after you set the
> markers, you can hear both locations, there is a command to play from the
> location of the start marker forward and a command to play from the end
> marker forward. 

You can label points, use TAB to navigate between them (when focus 
is in the label track), close the label with ENTER then SHIFT + right 
arrow to draw a selection of a known length which you can play.  

If you work with a selection you want to cut, C plays a known Cut 
Preview length (set in Playback Preferences) before and after the 
selection. You can expand the selection boundaries using SHIFT 
and left/right arrow or contract them with SHIFT + CTRL + 
left/right arrow. 

Sighted users can play between cursor and mouse pointer using 
B.  


> Also, you can move the markers to the left or right by
> tiny increments, perhaps as little as a sixteenth or an eighth of a second
> by pressing keys that move each marker forward and backward.  In other
> words, if you want to move the left marker forward or back, you can use
> one key to move it forward and another to move it back.  The right marker
> has two keys that do the same thing.  So after you set the markers, you
> can move them by tiny increments to set them precisely.  You can move them
> by larger amounts by repeatedly pressing these keys or by just holding
> down one of the keys so the repeat key function in Windows will move the
> marker.

Again, you can nudge the cursor in Audacity with left/right arrow but
to mark these cursor points you have to label them first.

Do you want to vote for "markers in the waveform" that stay there 
once dropped? It's a popular request (usually by people who are used
to "mark in" and  "mark out" points in other editors).

 
> Also, for some reason, it appears you can't move markers until a file has
> been exported, then opened again.  I don't know what happens if you save a
> file in the proprietary Audacity format and then open it again but if you
> record something and try to move the markers, you can't.  If you export
> the file as a wave file or some other format, then open it again after
> closing and reopening audacity, you can move the markers.  this may be a
> real waste of time and a real annoyance when working with long recordings.

What markers are you talking about here? The easiest VI way to move
labels is Tracks > Edit Labels.

The main argument for using MP3DirectCut is actually that it is not 
lossy; MP3 DirectCut edits the MP3 directly so does not re-encode it 
leading to quality loss as Audacity does. On the other hand, that 
restricts you in MP3DirectCut to cut/copy/paste and volume edits 
and not much more. 




Gale 



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Bailes" <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 5:2
> > Hi Gene,
> > have you any suggestions for making audacity easier and more pleasant to
> > edit with?
> >  
> > David.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011, 1:51
> > Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Keyboard commands do not work
> >
> > Was the original file an mp3 file and did you export the file you edited
> > using the same name and to the same folder?  If so, try editing and
> > exporting the file using a different name.  You can always change the name
> > again later.
> >
> > If you are editing something that is a stereo, joint stereo, or monaural
> > mp3 file, Mp3 Direct Cut is much easier and more pleasant to edit with.
> > It isn't a multitrack recorder or editor so you can only use it for
> > material that is in its final format and it only works with Mp3 files.
> > but if you have a file you want to edit and your intention is to have the
> > final result be an Mp3 file, I would recommend that you export it as an
> > Mp3 file and use Mp3 Direct Cut for editing.
> >
> > Gene



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