The probem I have with this is that there are times that publishers don't give us words for pictures, and we don't have the luxury of using the volunteer's work to get that information if we've lost that because we are now supposed to get this from the publisher. That is true very recently with a publisher that I read from bookshare which was the publisher's copy. It is fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will give us what we want, but to say that this is so wonderful and we should only keep to publishers right now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not keep downloading only publisher copies. The things that I didn't know after reading the publisher copy are things that I still don't know. -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Ann Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:33 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission I agree Monica Thank you for posting this. I look forward to the PQ books and the access it will give us to clean scans of books. I appreciate publishers working with bookshare. I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of books we can download. I don't want to see books that are historical removed because new ones on the topic might take there place. Leave all the different types of books and let us decide what to download. And I dont' have a problem with PQ books replacing existing books scanned by us as volunteers. I want the best quality book available. We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or store and reading the copy off the shelf as you mentioned. I appreciate everyone's hard work to see the collection grows. Laura Ann At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote: >Hi, Cindy. No one likes to have their time wasted or see what they >worked on replaced. Having said that, a large number of books currently >in the collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping them for the sake >of preserving someone's time isn't fair to the members of Bookshare >both because it would create confusion when someone is searching for >books and because we don't enjoy reading messed up books unless we have >no other choice. Even books rated excellent aren't usually letter >perfect, and a significant number have some serious issues. > >Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from your library or >bookstore and read it whenever you want to. You never have to worry >about scannos, and you don't have the distraction of hearing non-words >spoken in almost every paragraph. Yet you are the loudest voice asking >for Bookshare to keep scanned books when a publisher-quality book is >available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the print copy, and >that's wonderful. You are not in the majority though, and Bookshare >can't just keep books processed by you while getting rid of everyone >else's. All of us here have put our money, time, and energy into >preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this knowing that someone >could come along and do a BSO of our book at any time. In this case, >the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more qualified to provide it >than the publisher? > >You send your emails copied to Lisa and Pavi and would seem to speak >for us. You don't speak for many of us because you don't have any >concept of what it's like to have scanned books as your only source for >reading material. If Bookshare had a magic button where they could >replace every book with a perfect publisher quality version, I would >celebrate and send the staff some champagne. There are a small number >of books with hand-written picture descriptions that might be replaced, >and you could contact Bookshare about those. There are literally >thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that are barely legible >right now. They would become a pleasure to read if replaced. Teachers >want extremely clean scans for their students to read. The PQ books >provide that and benefit adult readers as well. I just hope they will >expand the program and that other publishers will work with Bookshare >in the future. > > >-- >Monica Willyard >Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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