[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission

  • From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:52 -0400

What kind of books are these where the descriptions should be sought. I ask because many books I do have pictures and sometimes, I leave them out.

Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann McCay" <annmccay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission


The probem  I have with this is that there are times that publishers don't
give us words for pictures, and we don't have the luxury of using the
volunteer's work to get that information if we've lost that because we are
now supposed to get this from the publisher. That is true very recently with a publisher that I read from bookshare which was the publisher's copy. It is fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will give us what we want, but to say that this is so wonderful and we should only keep to publishers right
now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not keep downloading only
publisher copies. The things that I didn't know after reading the publisher
copy are things that I still don't know.

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Ann
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:33 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission

I agree Monica

Thank you for posting this.
I look forward to the PQ books and the access it will give us to clean scans
of books.
I appreciate publishers working with bookshare.

I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of books we can download.
I don't want to see books that are historical removed because new ones on
the topic might take there place.
Leave all the different types of books and let us decide what to download.

And I dont' have a problem with PQ books replacing existing books scanned by
us as volunteers.
I want the best quality book available.
We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or store and reading the
copy off the shelf as you mentioned.

I appreciate everyone's hard work to see the collection grows.
Laura Ann

At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
Hi, Cindy. No one likes to have their time wasted or see what they
worked on replaced. Having said that, a large number of books currently
in the collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping them for the sake
of preserving someone's time isn't fair to the members of Bookshare
both because it would create confusion when someone is searching for
books and because we don't enjoy reading messed up books unless we have
no other choice. Even books rated excellent aren't usually letter
perfect, and a significant number have some serious issues.

Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from your library or
bookstore and read it whenever you want to. You never have to worry
about scannos, and you don't have the distraction of hearing non-words
spoken in almost every paragraph. Yet you are the loudest voice asking
for Bookshare to keep scanned books when a publisher-quality book is
available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the print copy, and
that's wonderful. You are not in the majority though, and Bookshare
can't just keep books processed by you while getting rid of everyone
else's. All of us here have put our money, time, and energy into
preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this knowing that someone
could come along and do a BSO of our book at any time. In this case,
the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more qualified to provide it
than the publisher?

You send your emails copied to Lisa and Pavi and would seem to speak
for us. You don't speak for many of us because you don't have any
concept of what it's like to have scanned books as your only source for
reading material. If Bookshare had a magic button where they could
replace every book with a perfect publisher quality version, I would
celebrate and send the staff some champagne. There are a small number
of books with hand-written picture descriptions that might be replaced,
and you could contact Bookshare about those. There are literally
thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that are barely legible
right now. They would become a pleasure to read if replaced. Teachers
want extremely clean scans for their students to read. The PQ books
provide that and benefit adult readers as well. I just hope they will
expand the program and that other publishers will work with Bookshare
in the future.


--
Monica Willyard
Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com
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