[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:01:11 -0700 (PDT)
Children's books, mostly, and possibly juvenile lit. Charts and diagrams in
other books I would assume can be retained in PQ books, probably in their
original format, whereas we've had to "translate" them into other formats, such
as words and paragraphs.
Cindy
--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:34 PM
> What kind of books are these where the descriptions should
> be sought. I ask
> because many books I do have pictures and sometimes, I
> leave them out.
> Thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann McCay" <annmccay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:54 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission
>
>
> > The probem I have with this is that there are times
> that publishers don't
> > give us words for pictures, and we don't have the
> luxury of using the
> > volunteer's work to get that information if
> we've lost that because we are
> > now supposed to get this from the publisher. That is
> true very recently
> > with
> > a publisher that I read from bookshare which was the
> publisher's copy. It
> > is
> > fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will give
> us what we want,
> > but
> > to say that this is so wonderful and we should only
> keep to publishers
> > right
> > now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not
> keep downloading only
> > publisher copies. The things that I didn't know
> after reading the
> > publisher
> > copy are things that I still don't know.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Laura Ann
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:33 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ
> submission
> >
> > I agree Monica
> >
> > Thank you for posting this.
> > I look forward to the PQ books and the access it will
> give us to clean
> > scans
> > of books.
> > I appreciate publishers working with bookshare.
> >
> > I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of
> books we can download.
> > I don't want to see books that are historical
> removed because new ones on
> > the topic might take there place.
> > Leave all the different types of books and let us
> decide what to download.
> >
> > And I dont' have a problem with PQ books replacing
> existing books scanned
> > by
> > us as volunteers.
> > I want the best quality book available.
> > We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or
> store and reading
> > the
> > copy off the shelf as you mentioned.
> >
> > I appreciate everyone's hard work to see the
> collection grows.
> > Laura Ann
> >
> > At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hi, Cindy. No one likes to have their time wasted
> or see what they
> >>worked on replaced. Having said that, a large
> number of books currently
> >>in the collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping
> them for the sake
> >>of preserving someone's time isn't fair to
> the members of Bookshare
> >>both because it would create confusion when someone
> is searching for
> >>books and because we don't enjoy reading messed
> up books unless we have
> >>no other choice. Even books rated excellent
> aren't usually letter
> >>perfect, and a significant number have some serious
> issues.
> >>
> >>Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from
> your library or
> >>bookstore and read it whenever you want to. You
> never have to worry
> >>about scannos, and you don't have the
> distraction of hearing non-words
> >>spoken in almost every paragraph. Yet you are the
> loudest voice asking
> >>for Bookshare to keep scanned books when a
> publisher-quality book is
> >>available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the
> print copy, and
> >>that's wonderful. You are not in the majority
> though, and Bookshare
> >>can't just keep books processed by you while
> getting rid of everyone
> >>else's. All of us here have put our money,
> time, and energy into
> >>preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this
> knowing that someone
> >>could come along and do a BSO of our book at any
> time. In this case,
> >>the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more
> qualified to provide it
> >>than the publisher?
> >>
> >>You send your emails copied to Lisa and Pavi and
> would seem to speak
> >>for us. You don't speak for many of us because
> you don't have any
> >>concept of what it's like to have scanned books
> as your only source for
> >>reading material. If Bookshare had a magic button
> where they could
> >>replace every book with a perfect publisher quality
> version, I would
> >>celebrate and send the staff some champagne. There
> are a small number
> >>of books with hand-written picture descriptions
> that might be replaced,
> >>and you could contact Bookshare about those. There
> are literally
> >>thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that
> are barely legible
> >>right now. They would become a pleasure to read if
> replaced. Teachers
> >>want extremely clean scans for their students to
> read. The PQ books
> >>provide that and benefit adult readers as well. I
> just hope they will
> >>expand the program and that other publishers will
> work with Bookshare
> >>in the future.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Monica Willyard
> >>Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com
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