-------------- Original message from Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>: --------------

Children's books, mostly, and possibly juvenile lit. Charts and diagrams in other books I would assume can be retained in PQ books, probably in their original format, whereas we've had to "translate" them into other formats, such
> as words and paragraphs.
>
> Cindy
>
> --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
>
> > From: Gary Petraccaro
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 10:34 PM
> > What kind of books are these where the descriptions should
> > be sought. I ask
> > because many books I do have pictures and sometimes, I
> > leave them out.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ann McCay"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:54 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ submission
> >
> >
> > > The probem I have with this is that there are times
> > that publishers don't
> > > give us words for pictures, and we don't have the
> > luxury of using the
> > > volunteer's work to get that information if
> > we've lost that because we are
> > > now supposed to get this from the publisher. That is
> > true very recently
> > > with
> > > a publisher that I read from bookshare which was the
> > publisher's copy. It
> > > is
> > > fine as we work toward a publisher copy that will give
> > us what we want,
> > > but
> > > to say that this is so wonderful and we should only
> > keep to publishers
> > > right
> > > now is way too soon, and to the point that I may not
> > keep downloading only
> > > publisher copies. The things that I didn't know
> > after reading the
> > > publisher
> > > copy are things that I still don't know.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Laura Ann
> > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:33 PM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare & PQ
> > submission
> > >
> > > I agree Monica
> > >
> > > Thank you for posting this.
> > > I look forward to the PQ books and the access it will
> > give us to clean
> > > scans
> > > of books.
> > > I appreciate publishers working with bookshare.
> > >
> > > I also appreciate the volunteers and the variety of
> > books we can download.
> > > I don't want to see books that are historical
> > removed because new ones on
> > > the topic might take there place.
> > > Leave all the different types of books and let us
> > decide what to download.
> > >
> > > And I dont' have a problem with PQ books replacing
> > existing books scanned
> > > by
> > > us as volunteers.
> > > I want the best quality book available.
> > > We dont have the luxury of just going to a library or
> > store and reading
> > > the
> > > copy off the shelf as you mentioned.
> > >
> > > I appreciate everyone's hard work to see the
> > collection grows.
> > > Laura Ann
> > >
> > > At 03:08 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
> > >>Hi, Cindy. No one likes to have their time wasted
> > or see what they
> > >>worked on replaced. Having said that, a large
> > number of books currently
> > >>in the collection are nowhere near perfect. Keeping
> > them for the sake
> > >>of preserving someone's time isn't fair to
> > the members of Bookshare
> > >>both because it would create confusion when someone
> > is searching for
> > >>books and because we don't enjoy reading messed
> > up books unless we have
> > >>no other choice. Even books rated excellent
> > aren't usually letter
> > >>perfect, and a significant number have some serious
> > issues.
> > >>
> > >>Cindy, you have the ability to grab a book from
> > your library or
> > >>bookstore and read it whenever you want to. You
> > never have to worry
> > >>about scannos, and you don't have the
> > distraction of hearing non-words
> > >>spoken in almost every paragraph. Yet you are the
> > loudest voice asking
> > >>for Bookshare to keep scanned books when a
> > publisher-quality book is
> > >>available. Yes, you may validate carefully from the
> > print copy, and
> > >>that's wonderful. You are not in the majority
> > though, and Bookshare
> > >>can't just keep books processed by you while
> > getting rid of everyone
> > >>else's. All of us here have put our money,
> > time, and energy into
> > >>preparing books for people to read. Yet we do this
> > knowing that someone
> > >>could come along and do a BSO of our book at any
> > time. In this case,
> > >>the publisher is doing a BSO, and who is more
> > qualified to provide it
> > >>than the publisher?
> > >>
> > >>You send your emails copied to Lisa and Pavi and
> > would seem to speak
> > >>for us. You don't speak for many of us because
> > you don't have any
> > >>concept of what it's like to have scanned books
> > as your only source for
> > >>reading material. If Bookshare had a magic button
> > where they could
> > >>replace every book with a perfect publisher quality
> > version, I would
> > >>celebrate and send the staff some champagne. There
> > are a small number
> > >>of books with hand-written picture descriptions
> > that might be replaced,
> > >>and you could contact Bookshare about those. There
> > are literally
> > >>thousands of books in the Bookshare collection that
> > are barely legible
> > >>right now. They would become a pleasure to read if
> > replaced. Teachers
> > >>want extremely clean scans for their students to
> > read. The PQ books
> > >>provide that and benefit adult readers as well. I
> > just hope they will
> > >>expand the program and that other publishers will
> > work with Bookshare
> > >>in the future.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Monica Willyard
> > >>Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com
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