[bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:36:56 -0500
Hi, Sue. That would assume that the original validator was the one who took
the book the second time, and that doesn't always happen. Take care.
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message -----
From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
Cindy,
I may be speaking too soon, but if the validator saved the work, he/she
would not have to use that original copy, but coould use the saved copy,
verify the copyright, and upload it.
hth,
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:31 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
> O.K., Guys. Here's what I don't understand. If a book
> is put back on the download list with a note like
> confirm copyright holder or correct title, how can a
> person just do that if it's the original back on the
> download list? Jake, I did think it was the
> original--thanks for confirming my opinion--but if
> onlyh one thing is wrong, like the copyright name or
> title, and the original is put back on the step one
> list, then someone else has to start the validation
> process all over again before correcting the one thing
> wrong. This doesn't make sense to me.
>
> As to rejected books being put back on the download
> list, I know that will happen if someone requests it.
> Gustavo was kind enough to do it recently for someone
> who had rejected it by mistake and for me wo wanted to
> validate a rejected book so it wouldn't be rejected.
>
> I'm curious, too, as to where all those terms are,
> Jake. Some I've seen on the download list, but surely
> Publish isn't there, according to what it means. If
> the book is in the collection it won't be the download
> list. And Valid and Invalid--if the book had already
> been validated, why is it back on the step one list?
>
> And I've seen Time Expired, so does Return New mean
> that the book was purposfully released by a would-be
> validator and Time Expired mean what it says?
>
> As E has pointed out, it would really be helpful if
> there were a way a person who releases a book could
> explain why. Maybe a Comments section could be added
> so that when one hits Release he/she can explain. Just
> another suggestion for the engineers when they have
> nothing else to do. smile
>
> Cindy
>
> --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Jake,
> >
> > The DONEDONE action comes after the VALID action,
> > not before since it's
> > above the VALID action, so I still believe it's the
> > tools like the Stripper
> > and Duxbury, not the tools like the spell checker
> > and adult content checker
> > that are being run. We'll have to remember to ask
> > about it sometime since
> > that's the only way to find out what this one truly
> > means.
> >
> > Looks like you've included all the actions in your
> > list. At least that's
> > all I remember ever seeing.
> >
> > BTW, I found an example of a book being kicked back
> > after rejection. The
> > book by Jocelyn Siler which has Book Title for the
> > title has been kicked
> > back twice, once after being accepted and once after
> > being rejected.
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Jake Brownell
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:14 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > In examining the sometimes cryptic messages the
> > BookShare system logs
> > here's a list:
> >
> > SUBMIT: fairly self explanatory, the user submitted
> > the book.
> > EDIT: A volunteer has checked the book out for
> > validation.
> > VALID: A volunteer has validated the book
> > INVALID: A volunteer has rejected the book.
> > RETURNNEW: Gustavo/an administrator has placed the
> > book back in the
> > validation ppol, or a user has released the book or
> > their allotted
> > validation time has expired (in which case there is
> > an expiration comment).
> > DONEDONE: Since this generally appears before the
> > VALID comment, I'm
> > guessing this is the first part of the "Step 2"
> > process. This is when the
> > automated dictionary and adult content checker are
> > executed.
> > PUBLISH: This appears to be done when Gustavo/an
> > admin puts the book live
> > onto the site.
> >
> > By all means point anything out you think I've got
> > wrong, I'd be happy to
> > look into it. If you run across any other messages,
> > I'd love to speculate on
> > them *grin*
> >
> > Hope this helps someone...
> > Jake
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:00 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Cindy, There is onne Gerald did noot explain and
> > that is "donedone". That
> > > is just plain idiotic. <smile>
> > >
> > > Sue S.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:50 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thanks, Gerald. I, for one, did not know that,
> > and I
> > >> am glad to learn it. I'm also glad you explained
> > more
> > >> or less what Invalid and ReturnNew meant. A lot
> > of
> > >> people have asked in the past and if we got good
> > >> answers I don't remember them. Now I hope I will.
> > >> smile
> > >>
> > >> Cindy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Mickey,
> > >> >
> > >> > This sounds like it's probably a problem on
> > your end
> > >> > rather than a problem
> > >> > with Bookshare, but due to the recent
> > Engineering
> > >> > release, I'll make sure
> > >> > it's not on Bookshare's end.
> > >> >
> > >> > In either case, as Mike said, the thing to do
> > in
> > >> > this situation would have
> > >> > been to release it back to the Step 1 page to
> > allow
> > >> > someone else to try to
> > >> > fix the problem rather than rejecting the book.
> > Let
> > >> > me know what the title
> > >> > and author are, and I'll make sure Gustavo
> > knows to
> > >> > reject your rejection.
> > >> >
> > >> > In case some of you weren't aware, a book isn't
> > >> > actually rejected until
> > >> > Gustavo reviews the reason for rejecting the
> > book.
> > >> > I've even come across a
> > >> > book where it was obvious that someone had
> > rejected
> > >> > a book but Gustavo had
> > >> > placed it back on the Step 1 page after he
> > reviewed
> > >> > their reason for
> > >> > rejection. The actions in the summary
> > information
> > >> > included an INVALID
> > >> > action followed by a RETURNNEW action by
> > Gustavo.
> > >> >
> > >> > Gerald
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > >> > Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
> > >> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:55 PM
> > >> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted
> > synopsis
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Mickey
> > >> >
> > >> > Pass along the name of the book so that Gerald
> > can
> > >> > contact Gustavo in the
> > >> > morning and have the book placed on Step 1.
> > >> > If Gustavo observes the reason for the
> > rejection, he
> > >> > may himself re-enter
> > >> > the book on Step 1, but forcing the submitter
> > to
> > >> > resubmit the book, just
> > >> > because of this,
> > >> > really isn't good pr for BookShare.
> > >> > Next time, I'd suggest simply releasing the
> > book
> > >> > rather than attempting to
> > >> > kill it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
> > >> >
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