Dear Ingala, Jolene, Ellen and All:
Thank you so much for sharing your responses with me. It has really meant a lot
to me to go through the inner process instigated by all of this, to summon the
courage to share it with this group, to experience the safety and support in so
doing, and to receive the caring responses sent both on this forum and
privately.
I feel transformed by the experience, and enormously grateful to both Tom, as
the instigator and Chris, who has served to contain it all, as well as to all
of you who have written and reached out to me-- including a number of women
colleagues who have written privately. That means a lot to me to hear from you
and to feel that it has touched a chord-- because whatever suffering I carry a
small portion of (that was triggered by this) is transformed from senseless and
isolating to enriching and meaningful by this kind of heartful exchange.
In my sense, Tom, is very much a part of this. I don't in any way feel that his
words arose from any form of malice-- but from a need to connect so powerful
that he may not yet fully understand its effect on others and accordingly
temper on their behalf. I'm contemplating this.
The I Ching addresses this dilemma in one hexagram-- in which a tea kettle
brings together the opposing forces of fire and water The text says that there
is a need for care, containment and caution so that the water does not boil
over and extinguish the fire, while the fire does not cause the water to
evaporate into thin air.
In the right balance, however, we can prepare tea, steam, and other
nourishments-- but the Book counsels:
"Only the most extreme caution can prevent damage. In life too there are
junctures when all forces are in balance and work in harmony, so that
everything seems to be in the best of order. In such times only the sage
recognizes the moments that bode danger and knows how to banish it by means of
timely precautions."
Obviously, this refers to the potential for "danger" which we all carry, not
just the one individual. When I contemplate how might I engage to follow the
guidance here, what comes up for me is the precautionary principle-- also
foundational to the Hippocratic oath: "First do no harm."
I guess that in cases where there is sufficient concern-- then "extreme
caution" (or conscientious application of that principle) is warranted--
without becoming unduly restrictive and gatekeeping-y in other instances, in
which "no harm" can be presumed and more play enjoyed.
Would welcome your responses to that -- -- how could that be applied to the
group communications as well in facilitation practice?
Alison
-----Original Message-----
From: Ingala Robl Greis <ingalarobl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Jan 22, 2008 9:28 PM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Choice
Dear Alison,
I want to express my respect to you for this letter. It put me into
"the washing machine, the dryer and on the rope-line" ..., whirling
up many emotions. For a long part of my history I felt like a victim,
and I know how hard it is to get out of this place, and only with a
direct intervention by Bert, I snapped out of it - and you did it in
such a short time! And you taught us all such a valuable lesson: to
be vulnerable, stay there for a little while, and then gather your
strength and come back to the group: really, the Fenix arising from
the flames.
Thank you and I honour you deeply.
With profound respect,
Ingala
México
El 21/01/2008, a las 8:38, Alison Rose Levy escribió:
Dear Chris, Angwynn, Barbara, Gary, and group:
With reassurance and support from you, along with the requests of a
number
of people who have written privately— and having processed this
further
within myself, I am coming back on board and will share a bit as
what has
occurred is a healing and learning opportunity.
People like Tom do have the canny brilliance of going right for
trigger
points, and it’s not a happenstance that he targeted as he did. In
a way I
have to thank him.
When Anita wrote that she didn’t know how she’d feel if she were
included in
a Tom narrative— that prompted me to share a bit more.
Quite frankly, I felt disappointed when I experienced that some lacked
empathy in thinking that Tom’s words could be so easily shrugged
off. I now
recognize that first of all, I was deeply triggered by them
(obviously!),
and second, that many are not aware of the undercurrents that might
prompt
that response.
It’s exceptionally courageous for any victim-identified person of any
background to come to the rigors of this work— as I’ve heard Bert
say that
he regards victims as somehow “more difficult,” even though clearly
he has
helped many to healing.
Perhaps that challenge is steeper for we who as Jews approach “the
enemy” as
teachers--- especially for Jews not prompted by the widely recognized
phenomenon of Jewish self-hatred— which can readily lead one into
becoming
either a perpetrator or the perpetrator’s capo/whore— out of either
identification or survival fear. It goes without saying that
everything I
describe here also applies to victim-identified Germans.
Unlike those whose attraction to the work comes with the added
boost of a
positive father identification with Bert— or those for whom a
German teacher
is simply neutral, for me there is inevitably a great deal of fear,
and I
know that I’m not alone in that response.
I’m not sure whether others practicing this form have to mediate their
dedication to it with their love for living (and past) relatives
who totally
frown on any connection whatsoever with Germans— or who have died
in the
Holocaust.
The irony of connecting with ancestors via a method coming from the
perpetrator/enemy— along with its frequent castigation of victims
(which I
regard as a distortion in the view) requires exceptional spiritual
integrity
and courage— and really puts loyalty and conscience to the test in
a way
that for others may perhaps be merely theoretical.
This has gone unseen in our professional community. Since it’s
really the
experience of the clients who come to workshops month after month
that most
matters to me, I’ve been okay with that as I suspect are my other
Jewish
sister-colleagues.
Within that context, finding my husband and me singled out as
Jewish before
my professional group— along with what I perceived (or perhaps
misinterpreted) as an insensitive, numbed out, mental response by
some group
members (and a deafening silence from others)— whose focus was on
re-including the perpetrator energy without preceding it by an
embodied
acknowledgement of the victim energy, undoubtedly triggered the deeply
visceral Jewish fear of being singled out, excluded from belonging,
and
killed.
The same movement that we see in constellations is ever-present in my
professional life in this community, when I stand connected and
honoring of
my Jewish roots while walking towards the enemy/teacher/community.
This
requires trust, yet exposes one to the danger of re-perpetration.
So when
Johannes speaks of the risks of retraumatization in this work, for
a Jewish
person, that risk is ever-present in relating to one’s teachers and
to this
community.
Yes, it’s my stuff— but it’s also deeply connected to the core
reasons this
work came into being and that’s why I consider it worthy of mention
here.
Aoart from the beautiful and deeply authentic writings and
teachings of Daan
van Kampenhout, whom I honor and love as an elder on this
particular path,
this is rarely spoken aloud. From what I can see many Jewish people
in this
work contain this challenging paradox silently within themselves—
which as
I’ve experienced during this incident— can be suppressive and
therefore an
incomplete resolution.
So for me, to finally reveal what I have long carried has in fact been
incredibly healing and I do feel a greater degree of safety in this
group
and in life and so I return to this group with thanks to you all
including
Tom.
The first time that Ed and I set foot on German soil, it was to go
to Zist
and study with Bert Hellinger. On our drive through Switzerland, we
stopped
to make a phone call, got caught in a sudden downpour, sought
refuge in a
glass phone booth, and were mere inches away from being struck by
lightening
which flashed around us on all sides. Several days later, when I
set up my
first family constellation before Bert, he asked: “If someone were
to be
struck by lightening, who would it be?”
Although Bert moved me out of harm’s way, the lightening bolts
still find me
-- since then at an intensity that is usually enlightening, rather
than
life-threatening. Yet sometimes I get scared, because I’ve yet to
find the
unconditional trust as to which it will be.
Perhaps one day I will.
For all of that, Ed and I do indeed (and gladly) pour the wine for the
victims and the perpetrators and lift a glass to Bert with a
resounding
“l’chaim”-- to life — but correction, Tom, it’s not mogen david,
it’s Cotes
du Rhone.
Alison
PS: And to my Jewish and German friends in the work reading this in
blind
cc, if you have not been following this, read down this email and
please let
me know, if you’d like me to fill you in.
Rose Levy
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alison ;
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2008 4:27 AMhelpful
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Choice
Thanks, Ingala, for this suggestion— and I think it would be very
and would suggest that the group adopt one of the first twosuggestions.
for me—
Tom’s posting as well as the responses to it have triggered a lot
I’m feeling weepy, scared, and emotionally overwhelmed at findingmyself
labeled like this and cast as a designated victim in a supposedly— and where
therapeutic forum/form that I’ve devoted many years to practicing
I felt that I had some right to belong.victim
Despite many years of hard work, that kind of vulnerability to
identification is never that far away for someone like me, soperhaps I am
not sufficiently hardy to belong to this cavalier group of manlywork and
philosophers. I have to apologize to the German masters of this
their surrogates if I have failed in my efforts to be a goodenough German
because my heritage and ancestry make me pray to being that mostvictim
unattractive and unsympathetic of all creatures— namely a Jewish
woman.philosophers, I must
While some might enjoy these discussions as armchair
confess I feel too exposed and vulnerable to feel that way. I’mhaving a
hard time staying in the group, and it occurs to me that it wouldbe much
simpler for everyone if I left so you could all celebrate yourasking to
inclusiveness.
Anyone wishing to contact me can do so privately, and Chris I am
be removed for this time.like Tom:
Alison
On 1/19/08 10:05 AM, Ingala Robl Greis at ingalarobl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ingalarobl%40prodigy.net.mx> wrote:
Greetings to all
I have several suggestions for this type of conduct by people
voice his/
- We could form a Committee of Honour and Ethics, so that Chris
would not have to take this type of decision
- Once the page is up, we could use the poll-program so that
everybody could vote on this: leading to temporary exclusion
or total exclusion from the group, or whatever, which keeps the
lever off Chris also
- We could just let it be because everybody has a right to
andher opinion, even those opinions we do not like and offend us,
what Tomthere are many people out in the world like this. Our motto is
inclusion. As several of you have mentioned: systemically,
alone. Iwrote, tells more about Tom than about the people he wrote about,
Best greetings,
Ingala
El 18/01/2008, a las 14:22, Chris Walsh escribió:
Hi all
This was a difficult decision and not based on this email
would nothave
given Tom a series of private warnings before so my move
put uphave been
a surprise to him. I in fact had used the option to stop him
sending emails
but it failed on this occasion. So the only options were to
while‰ .with this
or exclude him for a while. Please note the words „for a
does notHe does
have the possibility of returning if he apologises. If he
easy towant to
do that then he is excluding himself.
I think Sheila made a very good point that Tom deserves the
feedback from
the group post exclusion. I will forward that to him. It is
Anita Roy<mailto:ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>forward
you own emails to him as I have done here by copying him in.
hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
webpage: www.cwalsh.com.au
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
to his<mailto:ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 5:54 AM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Tom Melleltt
There are many ways to do set boundaries, and I appreciate that
Chris was in
a difficult spot and had to take measures. In light of recent
discussions re
breastfeeding and parenting, I am thinking what an appropriate
boundary
might be within a family or yahoogroup.
Suspension is a form of alienation. It is like sending a kid
part ofroom,
but he/she is still in the house, so not "thrown out". However,
that still
causes the child to feel separate and abandoned, and not
thethe family.
I once had a foster child, and if she had raging tantrums in
in theliving
room, she did have to go to her room, but I went with her, to
alleviate the
component of abandonment. It was preferable for her to stay
verballiving
room, but with me or my husband containing her physical and
goings onviolent
outbursts. This also alleviated the component of secret
discussionin the
living room when she wasn't there. The containment, and
This was alsoof her
behaviour were not secret, and transparency to everyone.
learnededucational for my own kids, as they saw the process and
allows, andfrom it.
So in that spirit, I would recommend inclusion in the group for
Mellett, but
his postings should be put on moderation as YahooGroups
theif they
are considered inappropriate by Chris who is responsible for
approved foroverall
well being of the group, then they simply shouldn'tt be
would<mailto:paulchung%40paulchung.com.hk>broadcast. On good behaviour after any number of months deemed
appropriate,
Mellett could go back to "unmoderated" status.
Sincerely
Anita Roy
On 18/01/2008, Paul Chung <paulchung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:paulchung%40paulchung.com.hk> > wrote:
Dear all,
I want to explore further from a systemic point of view. I
explore iflike to
know if Chris has to right to set up a constellation to
group?"suspension" is the best solution for the interest of the
Bert withWhile the
regulate in"group' also include Tom, does he has to right to mediate /
the
constellation if he detects entanglement between Tom &
drive".a view to
benefit the group. "Has the right" does not imply "has to
support Tom
I support Chris to blow the whistle. I would further
after theto have
the
access to read what is going on with the rest of the group
thesuspension. Again "have the access" does not imply he "has
years,interest".
To me, Tom's email, as well as Bert's new style in recent
that'sare the
best arrangement or the fate of the SC community. "Yes,
passright"
In Chinese medicine, we give ways for the heat in fever to
exampleout from
the
body rather than to "stop" or "neutralise" it. A typical
medicineis when
a baby or small child has fever, we'd rub our hands with
heatoil to
heat before placing it over the baby's feet to direct the
away thefrom there.
Or we mop the baby's body with warm wet towel to drain
westernheat as
the
water evaporates from the body. While some people in the
"cool".world
will
place ice cube / pad over the baby's forehead to keep it
foreheadFrom our
perspective, more heat will drain away from the "cooled"
temperature. Weand the
brain cell may be damaged if the baby has a high
overconsider
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are
much safer.
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a place where eastern & western culture conglomerate
2008/1/18, Ed Levy <levye@xxxxxxx <mailto:levye%40rcn.com>
<levye%40rcn.com>>:
Chris,
Thanks for addressing the issue of Tom's inflammable
healthier way.starved needdoesn't
suit the purpose of this forum or meet his own seemingly
for
attention and contact. I hope he finds both in a
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Ed Levy
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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:38 AM
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Subject: FW: [ConstellationTalk] When Bert finally
top and
Dear Tom,
I'm sorry but this email of yours is totally over the
especiallychance toinappropriate.
Accordingly I have removed you from the list to give you a
appropriatecool
your heals and reflect.
You can reapply to join the group in two months if you make
apologies to the people you insulted in your email
condition myAlison
<mailto:ConstellationTalk%25> <mailto:ConstellationTalk% ;>Rose
Levy, Ed Levy Ed Lynch and Bert Hellinger.
hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
webpage: www.cwalsh.com.au
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Subject: [ConstellationTalk] When Bert finally croaks . .
Greetings to one and all! As the "Phantom Constellator" who
by not belonging," I just dropped in "to see what
worldwide FCcondition was in" and to offer my contribution to the
(actuallyfinallycommunity when our esteemed Father Anton Suitbert Hellinger
croaks.
I choose to describe this future event with a cheeky
says, wethroaty!) English slang verb for dying because, as Jesus
live todon't know the hour of our passing, and ole' Bert might
stamp thisbe a
kicks offhundred! Hell, the sonofabitch might outlive me!!!
But the actuarial tables predict otherwise, so odds are, he
before I do. Therefore, I need a way for you all to
and heposting
into your memories and contact me when Bert's time is up
English, thesojourns to that Great Constellation in the sky.
[for those subscribers whose first language is not
verb "croch"referenceetymology of the word "croak" meaning "to die" is either a
person'sto the frog-like sound of the "death rattle" emitted as the
last breath on the deathbed, or else the Irish Gaelic
"hang on ameaning "to hang" --- not only with a rope but also to
obsessivelycross," i.e. "to crucify."]
Here's my offering. For the last few weeks I have been
elegy songsinging the moving and stirring German military requiem/
message/Birthday Bashthat Bert had requested to be sung at his 2006 Bavarian
Decemberas Max Dauskardt reported to us in his posting #3009 dated
18, 2006. Click here to read Max's post
http://health.
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Kamerad" (My3009>
groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/message/3009
The song is known either by its title: "Mein guter
had aGood
Comrade)
or its opening line, "Ich hatte einen Kameraden" (I once
Ich_hatte_einen_Kameraden>comrade.)
history:
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I possess a very good and booming Irish tenor voice and
we willsinging this hymn at whatever memorial service for Bert
his Germanorganize in Southern California.
(I would also recite his poem to Adolf Hitler in both
solo. Perhapschorus, butoriginal and in my English translation.)
Ideally, the Comrade elegy should be sung by a large men's
I'm able to sing for ten men in case I have to sing
conferencethis notice might inspire other men to form a chorus.
I'd be willing to travel to any constellation center or
fatherduring the one year of official mourning for our beloved
constellations!figure. What a way to set the mood for any and all
constellation when theHope you have enough floor space for all the horizontal
representatives you'll have!
(I can see it now. You know that point in a
dead? Hey,rep's knees start buckling as they get ready to drop
whole process.sometimes it's the most comfortable position in the
wakeI've actually fallen asleep as rep on the floor, only to
actually died!)up to
the facilitator needing to convince me that I had
of the twowinemaster, "Over
Also, we should be proactive and consult our erudite
Easy" Eddie Lynch, who should be able to provide cases
there avintage wines: Bert Nouveau and Bert Classique. (Isn't
August 4,Sophie
Liebfraumilch vintage as well?)
Check Ed Lynch's wine review in this posting #3550 of
message/2007
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Eddie Levy3550>
groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/message/3550
Oh, I just had a thought! Alison, perhaps you and your
the Jewishcould provide some kosher wine, maybe Mogen David for
vintages!representatives. We'll need both perpetrator and victim
3 minutes
All of the following You Tube videos are no longer than
playslong. Some are just 2 minutes long. Each and every one
elegiacthe same
men's choral rendition of the song at a slow requiem or
fastertempo--- except for [3] which moves at the very stirring
othertempo
of a battle hymn. [5] has best sound quality.
Do watch all 8 videos as they are not duplicates of each
give ain the
chosen photos or movie clips of the German soldiers. I
v=IVpM8OPixds>short
expresses adescription of each video.
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Van Nuys, CA
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(Poem written in 1809 by German poet Ludwig Uhland and
can be nomusic
by Swiss composer Friedrich Silcher in 1825)
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Ich hatt' einen Kameraden,
Einen bessern findst du nit.
Die Trommel schlug zum Streite,
Er ging an meiner Seite
In gleichem Schritt und Tritt.
In gleichem Schritt und Tritt.
Eine Kugel kam geflogen,
Gilt's mir oder gilt es dir?
Ihn hat es weggerissen,
Er liegt mir vor den Füßen,
Als wär's ein Stück von mir.
Als wär's ein Stück von mir.
Will mir die Hand noch reichen,
Derweil ich eben lad.
Kann dir die Hand nicht geben,
Bleib du im ew'gen Leben
Mein guter Kamerad!
Mein guter Kamerad!
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My literal translation:
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I once had a comrade
You will never find a better one!
The drums beat for battle.
He went right at my side
with equal gait and stride.
with equal gait and stride.
A bullet came flying
Meant for me or meant for you?
It tore him apart
He lies at my feet
As if he was a piece of me.
As if he was a piece of me.
He still wants to give me his hand
All the while I am reloading:
"I cannot give you my hand!
So stay in eternal life,
My good Comrade,
My good Comrade!"
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