Re: [ConstellationTalk] Collective Trauma
- From: "drmdressler@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 06:42:39 +0000 (UTC)
Dear Friends,
In terms of constellation approach this thread may have some lessons for us..
Categorical statements from expert facilitators during constellations has for a
long time bothered me. When they insist on knowing that things are this way or
an other, I feel the air is being sucked out of the room. I feel holding a
neutral open space is generally a more helpful approach. On the other hand
categorical statements and conspiracy theories may impress many.
So don't hold back, go for it.
Monika
On Friday, March 13, 2020, 01:12:30 PM GMT+11, Barbara Morgan
theknowingfield@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is a democratic international discussion group and therefore, unless
people are being insulting or disrespectful to others, which Chris has always
monitored very effectively, anyone is allowed to express their views on these
issues. The truth is we don’t know what the origin of the virus is so we can’t
say definitively one way or the other.
With any kind of group like this there will always be times when I disagree
with what is being said. That is not a reason to exclude it or take the
discussion elsewhere. Barbara
Sent from my iPhone
On 12 Mar 2020, at 23:03, Leslie Nipps lnipps@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Friends and Colleagues,
It is not a bio-weapon.
Please, for the sake of all that is precious, I cannot put up with a long
thread on this topic coming into my inbox at this time. Please take this kind
of conversation elsewhere. Otherwise, I will need to leave this list. I assume
I am not alone in this.
Thanks.
Leslie Nipps
Convivium Constellations - Founder, Practitioner &
Trainerwww.conviviumconstellations.com
Find out more about the West Coast Constellations Intensive, June 10-14, 2020,
San Rafael, CA, USA: http://www.westcoastconstellations.com/
"Hasten to that which supports." - The I Ching
On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Kerim Nutku Kerim@xxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks, Angwyn. What is the evidence for believing it is man-made bioweapon?
I wondered about that but have seen nothing to suggest evidence. What am I
missing?
KerimSent from my iPhone
On 13 Mar 2020, at 08:50, Anngwyn anngwyn@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings from Arizona !
From time to time Bert Hellinger would refer to what he called the "Greater
Forces " that shape individual lives,families and larger systems. Among those
forces we find war,famine,economic collapse,political unrest, genocide,natural
disasters,immigration,emigration and epidemics which often overlap. To this
list,I would also add radiation since associated events have impacted millions
of lives for generations and my recent article in TKF "The Bomb Joins the
Family" is about that.
We are currently experiencing a global pandemic, and this one is man made since
the virus originated in a bio-weapons lab. Which lab and how it got to China
and many other questions are still subject to high octane speculation. Who
benefits ? And "follow the money" are important questions and it may be quite
awhile until the fog lifts and the dust settles.Nevertheless, we are witnessing
an epidemic as a catalyst and force of social change, as well as social
control. As Bert noted, events such as epidemics and other of the Greater
Forces are often blind spots in understanding some family systems as well as
trans-generational trauma.
It is important now to stay awake ,keep an open mind, do your own research
with reliable sources,as well as being mindful of the many agendas in play at
this time. Ultimately, it is important to ask ourselves as to how we choose to
position ourselves and our work in relation to this global event.
As of today the Austral-Asian Intensive in Sydney is still on and I am planning
to attend.
Warm Regards,
Anngwyn St. Just Ph.D.Director, Arizona Center for Social Traumaanngwyn@xxxxxxxx
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