Re: [ConstellationTalk] Collective Trauma
- From: "drmdressler@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 07:16:21 +0000 (UTC)
"Fear based and reactionary" are nice and strong emotional expressions. One
could even say fear based. How much fun we are having here.
Anger is the wind that blows out the lamp of the mind. ~Robert Green Ingersoll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgRBnqpoQw
Monika
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On Friday, March 13, 2020, 11:55:58 AM GMT+11, Wolfgang Ettenreich
Wolfgang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<constellationtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No one - as far as I can tell - called this pandemic a conspiracy, suggesting
this sounds pretty ridiculous.
I hope not all who don't agree are lumped into “fear based and reactionary”.
WE
On Mar 12, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Anngwyn anngwyn@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello
This epidemic is real, not a conspiracy and it is a fact that epidemics are of
systemic importance in understanding family and other systems. The
ramifications of this recent pandemic will not likely be known for quite some
time and dismissing any discussion as "conspiracy" seems fear based and
reactionary.
Anngwyn
In a message dated 3/12/2020 4:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Thank you Barbara,
I agree and at the same time, the conversation needs to stay relevant to
constellation work. If it becomes a debate about conspiracy theories unrelated
to constellation work I will intervene.
Perhaps it would be an opportune time to explore how conspiracy theories take
hold so easily and how to constellation work might help us to defend ourselves
against them. After all, they are now so rife on both the left and right sides
of politics and they are being fed by echo chambers on the internet and they do
cause so much harm.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australiaph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au
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On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:43 AM Barbara Morgan theknowingfield@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is a democratic international discussion group and therefore, unless
people are being insulting or disrespectful to others, which Chris has always
monitored very effectively, anyone is allowed to express their views on these
issues. The truth is we don’t know what the origin of the virus is so we can’t
say definitively one way or the other.
With any kind of group like this there will always be times when I disagree
with what is being said. That is not a reason to exclude it or take the
discussion elsewhere.
Barbara
Sent from my iPhone
On 12 Mar 2020, at 23:03, Leslie Nipps lnipps@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Friends and Colleagues,
It is not a bio-weapon.
Please, for the sake of all that is precious, I cannot put up with a long
thread on this topic coming into my inbox at this time. Please take this kind
of conversation elsewhere. Otherwise, I will need to leave this list. I assume
I am not alone in this.
Thanks.
Leslie Nipps
Convivium Constellations - Founder, Practitioner &
Trainerwww.conviviumconstellations.com
Find out more about the West Coast Constellations Intensive, June 10-14, 2020,
San Rafael, CA, USA: http://www.westcoastconstellations.com/
"Hasten to that which supports." - The I Ching
On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Kerim Nutku Kerim@xxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks, Angwyn. What is the evidence for believing it is man-made bioweapon?
I wondered about that but have seen nothing to suggest evidence. What am I
missing?
KerimSent from my iPhone
On 13 Mar 2020, at 08:50, Anngwyn anngwyn@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings from Arizona !
From time to time Bert Hellinger would refer to what he called the "Greater
Forces " that shape individual lives,families and larger systems. Among those
forces we find war,famine,economic collapse,political unrest, genocide,natural
disasters,immigration,emigration and epidemics which often overlap. To this
list,I would also add radiation since associated events have impacted millions
of lives for generations and my recent article in TKF "The Bomb Joins the
Family" is about that.
We are currently experiencing a global pandemic, and this one is man made since
the virus originated in a bio-weapons lab. Which lab and how it got to China
and many other questions are still subject to high octane speculation. Who
benefits ? And "follow the money" are important questions and it may be quite
awhile until the fog lifts and the dust settles.Nevertheless, we are witnessing
an epidemic as a catalyst and force of social change, as well as social
control. As Bert noted, events such as epidemics and other of the Greater
Forces are often blind spots in understanding some family systems as well as
trans-generational trauma.
It is important now to stay awake ,keep an open mind, do your own research
with reliable sources,as well as being mindful of the many agendas in play at
this time. Ultimately, it is important to ask ourselves as to how we choose to
position ourselves and our work in relation to this global event.
As of today the Austral-Asian Intensive in Sydney is still on and I am planning
to attend.
Warm Regards,
Anngwyn St. Just Ph.D.Director, Arizona Center for Social Traumaanngwyn@xxxxxxxx
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