Thanks Alison and all of you for sharing of your wisdom and inspiring way
of facilitate this process.
I'd like to add something I introduce with my clients is, in the way I
understand this process: we are so used to analyze (as separated parts of
the machine) and this doesn't show to give us the results we need in the
issue (as it is shared). And, analyze comes from left brain and science
demonstrate that right brains works 50,000 times faster than left brain.
So, when we "constellate" an issue we allow us to work with both brains,
specially with the right brain (a more sensorial, emotional, intuitive,
spatial, brain). Then, talking returns the process to the left brain and
the risk is to slow down all the solutions that emerged, images that rigth
brain completely understand and know what to do, but left brain is upset
because it cannot get it (yet), and really want to know as usually does.
-By the way, that's the reason why I usually give some simple"homework" for
the peace of (left)mind of my client-.
I hope to contribute to this interesting thread,
Hugs from Peru,
Julio
2014-07-30 16:52 GMT-05:00 Edward Phillips dabhain@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Thanks Alison and everyone all very insightful and usefull observations
On 30 Jul 2014 20:07, "Zaquie Meredith zaquie@xxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When Bert Hellinger said "don't talk about it" nobody knew, even himself,
at that time, was constellation was all about. It was all too much in the
beginning, people were trying to figure it out
and that’s why talking about was harmful. The Energy field would vanish
easily with so many questions, so much to ask, the eagerness to learn and
understand and the level went from
the soul to personality.
So he was absolutely right, to my understanding. But as we approach the
understanding of the Field, in a sensorial way, we can now, talk about it,
as little or as much as we need without
disrupting the Field. However, our tendency is to use words to "analyze".
That’s how we learn and that’s how we defend ourselves: with words.
But words are also energy field! And if you use the same ones you are
used to "explain things"you are jumping from the silent mysterious way that
our soul understands to words that will "explain"it that is, you must
stop…think…analyze…think about again…choose the right words again…and…what
about that wonderful silence that puts all into place?
In my groups, we wait a while. Let it sink. If we need to talk about
it…we still do it in a very sacred way. Speaking from the heart. I felt
this way it works wonder.
Thank you Alison, for sharing.
Zaquie C Meredith
www.zaquie.com
(The Consciousness of our Sensations and Constellations: sold at
Amazon.com)
São Paulo, Brazil
Hi All,
(Note - SKIP TO "Here are my questions" if you just want to skim this
email.)
I am recently returned from the 7th North American Systemic
Constellations Intensive, which I had the privilege of directing this year.
I feel the expansiveness in my heart as I think about it! It was wonderful.
Thanks to the faculty: Francesca Mason Boring, Dan Booth Cohen, Ed Lynch
and Bill Mannle! And to all who attended and co-created such a beautiful,
sacred space.
My wondering comes out of a Constellation I asked for in my group on the
last day. It was not a personal Constellation in the usual sense, and it
wasn't clearly resolved because we didn't have time.
A few people from that group have reached out to me, and I noticed my
hesitance in talking about it too much. However, the hesitance feels more
like my response to the "rule" that we shouldn't talk about our
Constellations. And so I'm left wondering about the evidence for that
restriction. Or if perhaps I have been misinterpreting, in which case,
perhaps I'm not the only one?
HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS / thoughts:
1. We acknowledge that our day-to-day, personal consciousness is not the
main driver of our lives. Constellations clearly reveal that aspects of our
deeper systemic consciousness manifest through _symptoms_ in our personal
consciousness but are usually not seen for what they are in terms of
ancestral roots of trauma, etc. AND even if we do have a sense of their
ancestral roots, talking about it doesn't seem to resolve it. This is shown
by the experience of very slow process of talk therapy, vs. the much
shorter and incredibly effective Constellation healing. So one might say in
this case: talking has very little effect on the larger field.
The one place talk therapy is recognized as effective, though, is when
the talk hits on the deeper roots of an issue. Then we can feel in our
bodies, as in the Focusing work of Eugene Gendlin, that something has
resonated and moved.
2. I also have started engaging in dream work, especially the practice of
"Lightning Dream Work" described by Robert Moss. In this process, once the
dream is presented to a group, participants respond to it with the
statement "If this were my dream..." and they give their thoughts as if it
were LITERALLY their dream. It's quite a special process, as it reveals
multiple facets of what's in the larger field of that dream. The dreamer
can then take what's relevant to them, and is often shown new things they
had never considered. That information, provided not just through the
experiencing of the dream but also through the elucidation of the dream
using words, is quite valuable. Again, it feels like it has the effect of
moving something resonant from the wordless Field into our personal
consciousness, which can be very healing.
The "If this were my dream" has started moving into my Constellation
work, and now when I experience a Constellation that is not mine, there are
times when I talk about it using that language, especially if the seeker is
confused by the Constellation.
Silence vs. Words -
3. On the other hand, there is a clear place for silence. The profound,
sacred beauty of a Constellation often creates its own silence, naturally.
It's a silence that emerges from the movement in the Field. You can also
feel how, if you try to tell someone of the experience, there's a way it
can feel like profanity, as in irreverence or desecration. That contrast
between silence and words makes sense to me in the context of Constellation
work.
4. Finally, there is the way I have interpreted / misinterpreted the idea
"don't talk about your constellation" - this is where the superstition part
comes in. I have had the idea (where did it come from?) that talking about
your constellation in the wrong way can somehow undo the healing of the
Constellation. I am noticing that I feel that in my body as an actual fear.
Is that idea in the larger field? Where did it come from? Is it true? Is
there evidence for such a thing.
My thoughts right now are that I have direct experience that shows me
that 1, 2, and 3 are true, and my conclusions are that talk can get in the
way of the "sacred silence" that emerges from a powerful Constellation, but
not the healing movement itself.
Alison Fornés
*It is the courageous heart that loves. It is the loving heart that
heals. alisonfornes.com <http://alisonfornes.com>*
