Absolutely, there's almost no funding to do this kind of work and the fact that so much of it is done for free is a testament to the character of people like Vic, Phil, Jackie, Bryan etc.. The real cost of this kind of work is the purchase of a copy of the software to be made accessible (no, we're not at home to cracks), then several days (at least) of some heavy-duty effort. Remember that the folks providing the solution are in the same boat as you are - they can't see the interface either, so an awful lot of time is spent systematically testing what happens if a click is performed at any particular location. Good product documentation can help, but it rarely discusses anything but mouse actions on pictures that we can't see. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: 12 January 2011 00:29 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking Chris, it's good of you to offer, but, it probably would take more than that. You're looking at scripts for Melodyne, not just hot spots. When people pay, they expect what they get to be fairly comprehensively accessible. Accomplishing that with Melodyne would take a few days, at the minimum. There would need to be at least a few hundred people standing by with $10 to even break even. If I were seriously considering this work, it would be more reasonable to expect maybe 30 people to pay $50. I wish that sort of support was common. If people were willing and able to support work like that, there could be many more accessible programs than there are now. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:55 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking At 01:06 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote: >i must agree with bryan on melodyne. on my recent album we used >melodyne and i haven't heard it's equal in helping to create natural >sounding vocals. Not having any idea how long it takes to develop hotspot sets, I'll make this offer anyway. I'll gladly donate $10 US to whoever is willing to attempt hotspots for Melodyne. If enough people do that, the person or persons doing the work get some financial compensation for their time, effort, and skills. I've already donated to Phil's efforts, and he's got his hands full. I'm thinking that $10 is a small enough fee that most of us can afford it - heck, any of you who smoke probably spend that on your habbit in a couple days. Chris PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectzq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq