They're intended for different uses. Auto-tune is an effect. You program a scale in to it, send vocals through, and it snaps the pitch of the audio that comes through to the closest note in the scale that it was given. It can correct the pitch quickly (like is used on lots of pop stuff right now), or slowly (so that it helps the vocal without being so noticed). V-Vocal isn't an effect. It is a type of editor. When you open a vocal in V-Vocal, you can edit the individual notes. Besides changing their pitches, like Auto-Tune can do, you can move the starting time of notes without disrupting the timing of other notes, you can stretch notes out, you can create glides and swoops, you can add or remove vibrato, etc. If you don't cae about putting an entire track through automatic pitch correction, but would rather have the capability to fix a few bad notes or mistakes here and there, then V-Vocal is the tool to use. V-Vocal works best when you're using it to fix a little problem here or there. It is quite time consuming to try to use it for programming/editing out an entire vocal track. For that situation, you need Melodyne. Melodyne can be used to take a monotone vocalist with horrible timing, and make them sound like someone with amazing range, tight runs, and smooth vibrato, and excellent timing. It is for making real-sounding vocals, not the robot stair-step effect. It also works on multipart harmonies. That is, you can load 5 tracks of people singing in to it, and use its editing features to perform a type of vocal arranging by editing the pitch, timing, and other attributes of each vocal part. It is the most advanced vocal editing tool that I know about, and the results sound absolutely natural in the right hands. It is only partly accessible, though. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:22 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking Hi Phil and all, Ok, sounds good. I have not heared the result of V-vocal, but how is it compared to Autotune, is Autotune still better? Many thanks, Christian -----Original Message----- From: Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: den 9 januari 2011 21:27 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking V-vocal is fully supported by Cake Talking where as you can only automatically fix notes with the .HSC scripts. Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: 09 January 2011 18:44 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] A question about Caketalking Hi all, Just a question, is V-vocal supported by Caketalking? Or are there any better alternatives for pitch correction that is accessible? I am considering buying Caketalking, but just want to know. many thanks, Christian PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! 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