Aw shucks, That's very kind - thanks. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Conti Sent: 12 January 2011 16:14 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking yes Steve and he helped here as well with Phil. true gentleman. At 05:29 AM 1/12/2011, you wrote: >Hey Tim your a scholar as well as a Gentlemen, as You missed your >name out on that list and you do so much to help others not just >with access but with sound advice. You've help me out loads of times. >I thank you my friend. > >Steve > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:53 AM >Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking > > >>Absolutely, there's almost no funding to do this kind of work and the fact >>that so much of it is done for free is a testament to the character of >>people like Vic, Phil, Jackie, Bryan etc.. The real cost of this kind of >>work is the purchase of a copy of the software to be made accessible (no, >>we're not at home to cracks), then several days (at least) of some >>heavy-duty effort. Remember that the folks providing the solution are in >>the same boat as you are - they can't see the interface either, so an awful >>lot of time is spent systematically testing what happens if a click is >>performed at any particular location. Good product documentation can help, >>but it rarely discusses anything but mouse actions on pictures that we can't >>see. >> >>Best wishes. >> >>Tim Burgess >>Raised Bar Ltd >>Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 >> >>Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at >> >>http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>Behalf Of Bryan Smart >>Sent: 12 January 2011 00:29 >>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking >> >>Chris, it's good of you to offer, but, it probably would take more than >>that. You're looking at scripts for Melodyne, not just hot spots. >> >>When people pay, they expect what they get to be fairly comprehensively >>accessible. Accomplishing that with Melodyne would take a few days, at the >>minimum. There would need to be at least a few hundred people standing by >>with $10 to even break even. If I were seriously considering this work, it >>would be more reasonable to expect maybe 30 people to pay $50. I wish that >>sort of support was common. If people were willing and able to support work >>like that, there could be many more accessible programs than there are now. >> >>Bryan >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>Behalf Of Chris Smart >>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:55 PM >>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A question about Caketalking >> >>At 01:06 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote: >>>i must agree with bryan on melodyne. on my recent album we used >>>melodyne and i haven't heard it's equal in helping to create natural >>>sounding vocals. >> >>Not having any idea how long it takes to develop hotspot sets, I'll make >>this offer anyway. >>I'll gladly donate $10 US to whoever is willing to attempt hotspots for >>Melodyne. If enough people do that, the person or persons doing the work >>get some financial compensation for their time, effort, and skills. >> >>I've already donated to Phil's efforts, and he's got his hands full. >> >>I'm thinking that $10 is a small enough fee that most of us can afford it - >>heck, any of you who smoke probably spend that on your habbit in a couple >>days. >> >>Chris >> >>PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! >>To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >>If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>and in the Subject line type >>unsubscribe >>For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately >>following link: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq >> >>PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! >>To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe >>If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>and in the Subject line type >>unsubscribe >>For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>click on the immediately following link: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectzq or >>send a message, to >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>and in the Subject line type >>faq >> >> >>PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! >>To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >>If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>and in the Subject line type >>unsubscribe >>For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>click on the immediately following link: >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or >>send a message, to >>ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>and in the Subject line type >>faq >> >> >>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>signature database 5779 (20110111) __________ >> >>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >>http://www.eset.com >> >> > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 5779 (20110111) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > > >PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! >To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >and in the Subject line type >unsubscribe >For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >immediately following link: >ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or >send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >and in the Subject line type >faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! 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