[ddots-l] Re: More Mixes for your Monday Morning
- From: "James Malone" <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:24:14 -0800
Hey Chris, on that first cut, were the drums real? How did you get that New
Orlands style?
I need a drum track like that for another project, and I'm not a drummer.
Best:
James
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Hey Chris,
Thanks for sharing these.
I really dig both mixes. I especially liked what you did with the
mandolin at the end of the folk track. It had a nice effect in my opinion.
It was strange hearing a hip hop track like that sounding so crisp and
clean. Whenever I encounter a song like that, its always so dirty sounding
mix wise, and its always blasting out of a car with the subs cranked so loud
that I'm afraid the car's going to fall apart. Obviously, these comments
are coming from someone who is just starting to figure things out, but I
would say that possibly the claps could use some of that reverb that was
present on those big tom hits. It seemed like that might help fill in some
of that space, as the drum tracks are pretty minimalistic. Just a thought:)
Thanks again, I always enjoy checking out the mixes.
Justin
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:47 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
> Hi folks.
>
> Here I am with a couple more mixes.
>
> When I'm Gone (folk rock):
> http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/od93lb
>
> Notes:
> * octave down backing vocals move around spookily, or that was the
intended effect anyway.
> * Organ way in the background.
> * Mandolin delays left/right in time with the song.
>
> I compressed the drums too much, but I like the sounds I got, especially
the pop on harder snare hits!
>
>
> Pour It(Hip Hop):
> http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8ld0uw
>
> I ran out of time doing all the vocal edits. The track that just goes "hey
hey hey" is a bit out of time for sure!
>
> Since we aren't dealing with humans playing real drums and other
instruments here, I got more creative.
>
> The song seems to be about wasting perfectly good champagne by pouring on
the floor. So, I filtered the cymbals to add more "fizziness".
>
> Also, I tried to filter the breathing sounds in the background as if they
were more like fluid being poured in and out of a container. This one didn't
work so well but i left it in.
>
> The 808-Conga popping in the middle was already sounding a couple notes in
the song's key of D major, if rap songs can have a key that is. So, I added
a short delay to make it resonate at 2nd octave D natural as well.
>
> I hard-panned the hand claps, fattened them up, and added some quiet
quarter note rhythmic delays.
> There's also something neat going on with the verse vocals, way way in the
background.
>
> I didn't Autotune anything. the one track with that robotic effect is how
we received it - but it was just a single mono track, so I added some stereo
effects and doubling.
>
> About pitch correction:
> I haven't investigated V-Vocal yet. How good is it compared to Melodyne
and Autotune? In the case of Autotune, I see that Phil has graciously
developed HSC sets for Autotune 5. Is it possible to still buy that version?
>
> and is Melodyne accessible at all?
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. In my mixing class, people are pitch-correcting individual phrases or
even halves of phrases, by hand. That is, they aren't using automatic mode,
but specifying how much they want things corrected, and how much of the
original vibrato to retain. Can we get as specific as that with any of the
plug-ins? The speed people can do this with the mouse is scary, not to
mention moving bits of phrases or drum beats around in time.
>
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