Mike, That's very true! What I always focused on, when sequencing tracks, was playing the instrument like it's really played. So don't use sustain with a harpsichord, since that's stylistically incorrect. However, with slow string, you can get a great swell and great expansion dynamics with rapid keystrokes on one note, gradually getting louder and softer (hitting the key harder then softer), using the sustain to meld it all together. If you're lucky enough to have a sequencer with aftertouch (standard nowadays), there's so much more you can do... -Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Christer To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Poly Voicing, Clarification That's cool, you obviously know your s**t... It's all about combinations which, like you've identified, make certain instruments actually sound more like themselves, if you know wot I'm trying to say... I think its because composers have used this quote poly quote trip for centuries, and Joe Bloggs doesn't realise that what they're hearing ain't exactly wotz appnin! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew English (paper music) To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Poly Voicing, Clarification Mike, That's right. The Clarinet has a nice attack and mellow sustain tone. I like using the oboe with the pipe organ. Adds a nice bite to the organ's tone, just like adding the reed stop on a real organ. Also, with the organ, change the octave of parts of the voice to simulate 4-foot or 16-foot (or shorter/longer) stops. If anyone knows how to manipulate the RSC/RSD MIDI files produced by the Roland MT-200 sound module, I can post some music files I've produced. They're at least 10 years old. I haven't done a lot of sequencing lately. -Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Christer To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Poly Voicing, Clarification You should try a clarinet in there too... ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew English (paper music) To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Poly Voicing, Clarification Sharon, Yes, that's polyvoicing. Using two very similar voices together to produce a single voice (still on two tracks) that sounds better. Still sounds like just a string section, but you're combining the attack and decay attributes. (For strings, I like to add a soft flute sound, just to get a nice attack.) -Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Hooley To: Cake Talking List Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:54 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Poly Voicing, Clarification One of you mentioned the idea of poly voicing. Is that where you do what I mentioned earlier, using a different staccato strings for quick action along with the slower strings? I'm actually using "string section," not "slow strings." I think I'll go to work on correcting the time offset. thanks all! Sharon